Does existence really matter if it is just an idea?

In summary, the conversation discussed the concept of existence and whether it can be proven. The idea of solipsism was brought up, but ultimately it was concluded that existence is not pointless as it is something that we can perceive and doubt. The existence of truth was also mentioned, with the idea that it is a property that can be attributed to propositions. The existence of the universe was also acknowledged, even if it may not exist independently of the perceiver. Overall, the conversation suggests that existence is not something that can be easily defined or proven, but it is still a relevant and important concept.
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quddusaliquddus
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Nothing can be proven to exist Truth, Us, Universe, etc ... :cry:

So ... is existence an idea cooked up by sum1? :tongue2:

Whether existence can be proven or not - does it matter? :zzz:
 
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Unless you have absolute conscious control over the universe, then what does it matter? Either way, you're stuck with it. In other words, Solipsism is pointless.
 
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quddusaliquddus said:
Nothing can be proven to exist Truth, Us, Universe, etc ... :cry:

So ... is existence an idea cooked up by sum1? :tongue2:

Whether existence can be proven or not - does it matter? :zzz:
You exist. You can doubt your existence, but then there must be "something" doing the doubting. You are doing the doubting. Truth exists, if we say that truth is nothing more than a property that can be attributed to a proposition. A proposition that says "2 + 2 = 4" has truth. You're probably more concerned with propositions that try to assert something to do with the real, independent world. But does such a world exist? Perhaps not, we only have our perceptions (we can't tell what's beyond), but we only have our perceptions anyways, so it doesn't matter. Now, the universe exists as well, as it exists in your perceptions. It may not exist independently of the perceiver (you) but why is that a necessary criteria for existence?
 

1. What does "no proof of existence exists" mean?

"No proof of existence exists" refers to the idea that there is no evidence or verification of the existence of a particular entity or concept.

2. How is this concept relevant in science?

In science, the existence of something is typically supported by empirical evidence and experimentation. If there is no proof of existence for a particular phenomenon, it may be considered unverifiable or unscientific.

3. Can something exist without any proof of its existence?

In terms of scientific understanding, it is generally accepted that something cannot be considered to exist without any evidence or proof of its existence. However, there may be philosophical or metaphysical arguments for the existence of things without empirical evidence.

4. How does the concept of "no proof of existence exists" relate to the concept of falsifiability?

The concept of falsifiability in science states that a hypothesis or theory must be testable and potentially disprovable in order to be considered valid. Similarly, the idea of "no proof of existence exists" suggests that something cannot be considered true or existent without any supporting evidence.

5. Are there any examples of things that have no proof of existence?

There may be many things that have no proof of existence, depending on one's perspective and definition of "proof." Some examples could include supernatural beings, parallel universes, or historical events that lack concrete evidence.

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