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Nobel Prize

  1. Mar 12, 2016 #1
    For example your dying grandfather has made a breakthough discovery worthy of a Nobel Prize but he was dying and surely won't get a Nobel and he wants you to share it to the world and claim it as your own discovery. Would you still get the Nobel if the committee would find out it is your grandfather's discovery. What steps must be taken so it will be yours?
     
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  3. Mar 12, 2016 #2

    rbelli1

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    I would suspect that if they found out it would be scandalous regardless if done with his blessing. Lying is lying whether it is your idea to tell the falsehood or not.

    If you had do work to finish the paper then you could put yourself as co-author. In any case it will never be completely yours regardless of what you may do.

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  4. Mar 12, 2016 #3
    Yep, fraud is fraud.
     
  5. Mar 12, 2016 #4
    Ok. Supposed my grandfather couldn't finish it. And I hired physicists to finish it under my name or organization. Do I get a Nobel?
     
  6. Mar 12, 2016 #5

    1oldman2

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    I love a good thought experiment. :thumbup:
     
  7. Mar 12, 2016 #6

    Evo

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    You don't get a prize for hiring people. Look at all of the Nobel prize winners that have worked for AT&T, the scientists in their employ get the prize, not the employers. The employers can brag that they funded and employed the scientists.
     
  8. Mar 14, 2016 #7
    Supposed you accidentally discovered high temperature or even room temperature superconductivity... can you get a Nobel if you didn't have PH.D. but just being an undergraduate in chemistry? Or let's say you were self taught and didn't study school.. but you really discovered room temperature superconductivity.. do you get a Nobel?
     
  9. Mar 14, 2016 #8

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    There is ZERO requirement that the recipient of a Nobel prize in physics has any level of education.

    So cube173, have you ran out of things to do to amuse yourself?

    Zz.
     
  10. Mar 15, 2016 #9
    In the history of Nobel Prizes. Can you cite any physicist who doesn't have formal education yet got a Nobel? For example by say accidentally discovering something then reserve engineering it to discover the physical principle?
     
  11. Mar 15, 2016 #10

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    1. A discovery doesn't always require the explanation of the physical principal. Do you think Kamerlingh Onnes actually had the physical explanation for superconductivity when they awarded him the nobel prize for its discovery?

    2. No, there wasn't anyone who had won the Nobel prize who hadn't had a formal education, which stressed the importance of having such education to be able to make such discovery. However, the Nobel prize STILL doesn't have a requirement that one has to have a formal education as a criteria to receive such prize (go look at the Nobel website). You are confusing cause-and-effect versus something that is required.

    3. What is the point in all of this? Have you ran out of realistic scenarios to learn about and study, and now you are going to waste time yapping about the things that are unlikely to occur? I can't believe that after finding such a valuable resource as this forum that THIS is all that you can think of to ask! What a waste!

    Zz.
     
  12. Mar 15, 2016 #11

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    The term "valuable resource" may be inadequate in this context. The resources available on this site are priceless, it's an incredible collection of knowledge. :thumbup:
     
  13. Mar 15, 2016 #12

    Evo

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    This thread is done. :smile:
     
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