Is the Lebesgue Integral of sin x / x from 0 to infinity Nonexistent?

In summary: However, the limit as X goes to infinite of the integral does not exist in the Lebesgue sense.In summary, the conversation is about proving the non-existence of the Lebesgue integral from 0 to infinity of sin x / x. The argument presented involves setting up intervals and changing variables to show that the integral is greater than or equal to infinity. The concept of Riemann and Lebesgue integrability is discussed, with the conclusion that sin x / x is only integrable in the sense that the integral from 0 to X exists but not in the Lebesgue sense.
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muzialis
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Hello all, can someone please direct me towards an argument proving the Lebesgue integral from 0 to infinity of sin x / x does not exist?
Many thanks
 
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We need to show that

[tex]\int_0^\infty{\left|\frac{\sin(x)}{x}\right|dx}=+\infty[/tex]

For this, we set

[tex]J_k=\int_{k\pi}^{(k+1)\pi}{\left|\frac{\sin(x)}{x}\right|dx}[/tex]

Change the variables: [itex]y=x-k\pi[/itex] to obtain

[tex]J_k=\int_0^\pi{\frac{\sin(y)}{y+k\pi}dy}[/tex]

From [itex]y+k\pi\leq (k+1)\pi[/itex] follows

[tex]J_k\geq \frac{1}{(k+1)\pi}\int_0^\pi{\sin(x)dx}=\frac{2}{(k+1)\pi}[/tex]

Thus

[tex]\int_0^{+\infty}{\left|\frac{\sin(x)}{x}\right|dx}\geq \sum_{k=0}^{+\infty}{J_k}=+\infty[/tex]
 
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Micromass,

many thanks for thr neat proof.
The fact that this function is no Lebesgue integrable but is it Riemann integrable in the improper sense is the most puzzling to me.
Can you please maybe attempt an heuristic explanation too?

Wikipedia says that "from the point of view of meausre theory the integral is like infty - infty", which I do not understand at all.

Also, on the integrabiliyt of thre function 1/x. In this thread https://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-276377.htmlvigVig offers a proof, but i really do not get why would phi(x) converge to infty, and i did not manage to clarify.
Many thanks for your help

Muzialis
 
  • #4
sinx/x is integrable only in the sense that you can integrate it from 0 to X and then let X become infinite. The integral from 0 to X exists in both Riemann and Lebesgue definitions.
 

1. What is Non Lebesgue Integrability?

Non Lebesgue Integrability refers to a type of integration that does not follow the principles of Lebesgue integration. It involves the use of a different set of techniques and methods to calculate the integral of a function, and is applicable to a wider range of functions compared to Lebesgue integration.

2. How is Non Lebesgue Integration different from Lebesgue Integration?

The main difference between Non Lebesgue Integration and Lebesgue Integration is in the set of functions to which they can be applied. Non Lebesgue Integration can handle more types of functions, including those with unbounded or oscillating behavior, while Lebesgue Integration has limitations in this regard. Non Lebesgue Integration also uses different techniques, such as Riemann sums, to calculate the integral.

3. When is Non Lebesgue Integration used?

Non Lebesgue Integration is commonly used in mathematical analysis and other fields of mathematics to calculate integrals for functions that cannot be handled by Lebesgue Integration. It is also useful in probability theory, where it is used to calculate the expected value of random variables.

4. What are the advantages of Non Lebesgue Integration?

Non Lebesgue Integration has several advantages over Lebesgue Integration. It can handle a wider range of functions, allowing for more flexibility in mathematical analysis. It also has simpler techniques, such as Riemann sums, which make it easier to calculate integrals for complex functions. Additionally, Non Lebesgue Integration is more intuitive and closer to the traditional concept of integration.

5. Are there any limitations to Non Lebesgue Integration?

While Non Lebesgue Integration has many advantages, it also has some limitations. It cannot be used for functions that are not Riemann integrable, and it may not always produce the same result as Lebesgue Integration for functions that are Lebesgue integrable. Additionally, Non Lebesgue Integration can be more difficult to generalize to higher dimensions compared to Lebesgue Integration.

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