Is White Supremacy Becoming Obsolete in a Globalized World?

[shonagon53]

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Before reading this post, please take note of shonagon53's statement from furtherdown this thread:

As you've noticed by now, my entire post was intended as irony, since there's so much pseudo-scientific nonsense about "race" on this message board. So I thought, let's turn this entire thing around.

*end of moderator comment*

Non-white people are rapidly becoming the world's new leaders. Black people are adapting extremely well in this new globalized world. For example, it's fantastic to see how Nigerians, Congolese and black South Africans dominate the world's informal economy (estimated at around 20% of world GDP -- so we have one group of black people controlling an economy worth more than the entire U.S. GDP!). White people prove to be far less flexible and dynamic, and have difficulties coping with the globalized environment which they have created themselves. Whiteys are easy to control; 20% of them take drugs, which the black man provides. Of course, white man calls this informal economy "illegal", "criminal" or what have you, but the fact is that IT WORKS, and the white man is the importer of many of those informal goods (cannabis, cocaine, opiads, heroin, XTC, etc...etc...). If white man weren't so depressed and psychotic, the trillion dollar drug industry wouldn't exist (but Nigerians would have found another way of coping).

All the while, we see white people trying to lash out, to re-colonize and counter this extreme success with all means available (they invent new ideas, e.g. the neocolonial notion of "human rights" which is used to control third world regimes, they install dictators, go to war if they see a man disobeying their colonialist orders, etc...). But to no avail. The success of non-whites is too overwhelming.

This example of Nigerians' economic success can be complemented with the biological success of non-white races. They're doing extremely well in maintaining a high birth ratio, while white societies are decaying and will collapse soon under their own weight. (Of course, disease and hunger and famine still occasionaly strike in "third world" countries, but no longer with devastating death ratio's as a consequence). A society like Japan is a zombie society. It won't be long before the US, Russia and Europe too, need to "import" non-whites to remain a viable society.

In short, it won't be long now before the white race will get a feeling of being a minority with the self-esteem of a minority, no longer that of a dominant race.

Moreover, the white man has disturbed well organized non-white societies (with his colonial experiments). The non-whites had to adapt and cope, and they're doing tremendously well, considering the extreme barbaric violence of the colonial enterprise. The non-whites learned to adapt and use the white man's weapons against himself (a sign of grandiose superiority). Pakistan has nukes. North Korea has nukes. Americans can no longer simply bomb these countries (like white man used to do when "the natives" disobeyed). In short, non-whites have adapted in such a way that they are now becoming so powerful that they no longer need the white man.

It won't be long before the white man will feel what it's like to be colonized, humiliated, exploited and destroyed.

History's a b!tch, and whitey will feel it.

 

[Robert Zaleski]

Is there a janitor in the house? One of our patient's has just experienced a cerebral bowel movement.

 

[BlackVision]

Black people are adapting extremely well in this new globalized world. For example, it's fantastic to see how Nigerians, Congolese and black South Africans dominate the world's informal economy (estimated at around 20% of world GDP -- so we have one group of black people controlling an economy worth more than the entire U.S. GDP!).

Where the hell are you getting these stats from? Nigerians, Congolese, and South Africans are all poor.

It seems as though you're some black guy that has some grudge against the "white man" Thinking the white man is always trying to put you and your "people" down.

Whiteys are easy to control; 20% of them take drugs, which the black man provides.

Drug use is higher among blacks. And how exactly do blacks provide drugs? Ecstasy comes from the Netherlands. Cocaine comes from Columbia. I do not often hear about mass shipments of drugs coming in from Africa.

If white man weren't so depressed and psychotic, the trillion dollar drug industry wouldn't exist (but Nigerians would have found another way of coping).

Nigerians are extremely poor.

Nigeria: GDP per capita (PPP): $900
United States: GDP per capita (PPP): $36,300

Nigeria: GNI per capita (real): $300
United States: GNI per capita (real): $35,400

Africa is a continent that is as poor if not poorer than it was 50 years ago. GDP growth for much of the continent is stagnated.

Most of the 1st world countries are still white. The rest are asian. There isn't a single 1st world African country. There isn't a single 1st world Latin American country.

This example of Nigerians' economic success can be complemented with the biological success of non-white races. They're doing extremely well in maintaining a high birth ratio

A high birth rate is considered a failure in producing a developed industrialized modern society. There is a specific reason why all the 1st world countries have low birth rates. Yes that includes non-white 1st world countries such as Japan and Singapore which also have extraordinarily low birth rates.

The non-whites learned to adapt and use the white man's weapons against himself (a sign of grandiose superiority).

All the countries with nuclear weapons are either in Europe or in Asia. With of course the addition of the United States. So by non-whites are you simply referring to Asia? In which case the only country with a decent nuclear stock is China with over 200 nukes. India and Pakistan with 20 or 30 nukes against the United States with over 11,000 just will not cut it. Not to mention India and Pakistan do not have a single nuke that can launched at the US.

It won't be long before the white man will feel what it's like to be colonized, humiliated, exploited and destroyed.

History's a b!tch, and whitey will feel it.

Are you the type of black person that goes and whines about how you can't get a job and can't do well in school because the white man is keeping you down?

So how do blacks do in America you ask? Well.

Median household income by ethnicity in the US:

Asians/Pacific Islander: $53,600
White (Non Hispanic): $46,300
Hispanic: $33,600
Black: $29,500

Source: US Census Bureau
Link: http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/img/incpov01/fig06.jpg


2003 Average SAT Scores:

Ethnic Group:

Asian/Pacific Islander Math: 565 Verbal:499 Total: 1064
White (Non Hispanic): Math: 530 Verbal: 528 Total: 1058
American Indian: Math: 481 Verbal: 482 Total: 963
Mexican American: Math: 460 Verbal: 453 Total: 913
Black American: Math: 426 Verbal: 434 Total: 860

Source: College Board
Link: http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/about/news_info/cbsenior/yr2003/pdf/2003_TOTALGRP_PRD.pdf


Black/white gap in education statistics:
http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2001/2001061.pdf



Are these also part of your signs of blacks becoming powerful?


Strange how your topic is called "Non-whites more successfull?" and absolutely nothing in your post had anything to do with the success of non-whites.

 

[Janitor]

Is there a janitor in the house?- Robert Zaleski

Yeah okay, here I am.

When whites become a minority in the U.S., will it be politically correct for them to form a Congressional White Caucus?

 

[Tigers2B1]

Yeah okay, here I am.

Nice ---

 

[shonagon53]

Well Blackvision, do you honestly think that African governments have transparent accounts? Hilarious! But please keep believing that.

1. You know, the trillion dollar drug industry doesn't keep official records. The Nigerian government is not going to write "shipment of 25 tonnes of heroin to the U.S." under "fruit and vegetables exports".

You're probably not aware of the real purchasing power of many urban Africans, Asians and Latin Americans, created in the informal economy, which, as you have probably googled by now, is in the order of 20% of world GDP.

Black people are good when it comes to black market affairs. You keep things white, ok?

2. Comparatively speaking Africans consume more weed (a mild drug, which keeps them sharp), while American and European whites consume much more hard drugs.

3. If you know anything about drugs, you'll see that quasi the ENTIRE synthetic drug trade (amphetamines, XTC) produced in Belgium and the Netherlands, is in the hands of the Nigerian-Congolese Cartel. Moreover, virtually 60% all the heroin that comes from Burma and Afghanistan and which reaches the U.S. and Europe, passes via Nigeria. You really have to read up on this. I could go on about other commodities like coltan, diamonds, gold, uranium, etc...etc... So you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

4. I'm talking about non-whites in general, not about black Americans, who are a category on their own. (They live too close to whites, which makes them weak).

 

[BlackVision]

Well Blackvision, do you honestly think that African governments have transparent accounts? Hilarious! But please keep believing that.

Do you honestly believe the standard of living of Africans aren't severely below par? Excuse me that was an understatement. Do you honestly believe the standard of living of Africans aren't severely severely severely severely severely severely severely severely below par?

Black people are good when it comes to black market affairs. You keep things white, ok?

I would say the Italian, Chinese, Russian mafias have far more power than any African mafia.

2. Comparatively speaking Africans consume more weed (a mild drug, which keeps them sharp), while American and European whites consume much more hard drugs.

Stats please.

I'm talking about non-whites in general

The only non-white you mentioned in your post was black. Other than simply stating that North Korea and Pakistan has nukes.

 

[shonagon53]

Do you honestly believe the standard of living of Africans aren't severely below par?

Well, I'll change positions here and open up a new line of thinking.

What makes your western ideas about "the standard of living" universal? There's no such thing as universal standards of living. It's not because a few governments and a few universalistic ("neocolonialist") institutions say "well, this is how we're going to define standards of living", that this makes any sense. By American criteria, European standards of living are low, but by UN criteria, many many European countries rank higher than the US. So what will it be then?

Moreover, did you know that on the Hedonism Index (an ironic, but intellectually challenging research project) shows Nigerian people to be the happiest people on the planet? Guess who's most miserable? Indeed, Americans.

[White] Americans are unhappy, depressed, mildly psychotic people who have to resort to all kinds of standards, IQ tests, technocratic indexes and stats, in order to feel comfortable. Non-whites have developed social technologies which make them happy. You haven't.

Now get a clue, and try to kick that mediocre habit of yours of being a one-eyed racist because you have no genuine lust for life but only bitterness.

 

[BlackVision]

Hmmm I see how it is. For every 10 questions and statements I input, you will only have the ability to give an answer to just 1. And quite poorly as well.

What makes your western ideas about "the standard of living" universal? There's no such thing as universal standards of living. It's not because a few governments and a few universalistic ("neocolonialist") institutions say "well, this is how we're going to define standards of living", that this makes any sense. By American criteria, European standards of living are low, but by UN criteria, many many European countries rank higher than the US. So what will it be then?

Tell me in which definition of "standard of living" would "starving to death" not be considered a low standard of living.

Moreover, did you know that on the Hedonism Index (an ironic, but intellectually challenging research project) shows Nigerian people to be the happiest people on the planet? Guess who's most miserable? Indeed, Americans.

[White] Americans are unhappy, depressed, mildly psychotic people who have to resort to all kinds of standards, IQ tests, technocratic indexes and stats, in order to feel comfortable. Non-whites have developed social technologies which make them happy. You haven't.

Intellectual people always have consistently been shown to have a higher rate of depression. You never heard the term "ignorance is bliss?" It's also probably the reason why Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Several times higher than that of America. The professions with the highest suicide rates are also physicians, dentists, scientists, lawyers, etc. Again the high end of the intelligence chain. Afterall, why would a mental retard have anything to be stressed and depressed about? They don't have a care in the world.

Now get a clue, and try to kick that mediocre habit of yours of being a one-eyed racist because you have no genuine lust for life but only bitterness.

Are you talking about yourself and your constant ranting of "the white man"? If so, I agree.

 

[shonagon53]

Hmmm I see how it is. For every 10 questions and statements I input, you will only have the ability to give an answer to just 1. And quite poorly as well.

You don't ask questions.

Tell me in which definition of "standard of living" would "starving to death" not be considered a low standard of living.

There's an extremely small minority of non-white people starving to death. You don't have to believe everything your racist pseudoscientific media tell you. But you're too weak to look beyond your own small world.

Intellectual people always have consistently been shown to have a higher rate of depression.

Prescientific fantasy.

It's also probably the reason why Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.

Prescientific fantasy.

The professions with the highest suicide rates are also physicians, dentists, scientists, lawyers, etc. Again the high end of the intelligence chain.

Prescientific fantasy.

Afterall, why would a mental retard have anything to be stressed and depressed about? They don't have a care in the world.

Ordinary fascist fantasy.

 

[Moonbear]

Intellectual people always have consistently been shown to have a higher rate of depression. You never heard the term "ignorance is bliss?" It's also probably the reason why Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Several times higher than that of America. The professions with the highest suicide rates are also physicians, dentists, scientists, lawyers, etc. Again the high end of the intelligence chain. Afterall, why would a mental retard have anything to be stressed and depressed about? They don't have a care in the world.

Consistently? Hardly.

Some excerpts from: http://www.apa.org/monitor/jan01/suicide.html

"In addition, statistical conclusions are hampered by the fact that when the 30,000 annual U.S. suicides are divided into occupations, the numbers for many job categories are relatively small."

"For example, in 1997, NIOSH and other government agencies analyzed 1980-84 death certificates by all occupations and causes of death, and found statistically significant elevated rates of suicide for:

• White male physicians.

• Black male guards (including supervisors, crossing guards, police, protective service occupations, but not correctional institution occupations).

• White female painters, sculptors, craft-artists and artist printmakers."

"In the end, say some researchers, occupation may not be much of a factor in suicide. Psychologists have long documented that among the top predictors for suicide are diagnosable mental disorder, co-morbid substance use, loss of social support and availability and access to a firearm."

 

[shonagon53]

Thank you Moonbear.

 

[BlackVision]

Consistently? Hardly.

Some excerpts from: http://www.apa.org/monitor/jan01/suicide.html

"In addition, statistical conclusions are hampered by the fact that when the 30,000 annual U.S. suicides are divided into occupations, the numbers for many job categories are relatively small."

"For example, in 1997, NIOSH and other government agencies analyzed 1980-84 death certificates by all occupations and causes of death, and found statistically significant elevated rates of suicide for:

• White male physicians.

• Black male guards (including supervisors, crossing guards, police, protective service occupations, but not correctional institution occupations).

• White female painters, sculptors, craft-artists and artist printmakers."

"In the end, say some researchers, occupation may not be much of a factor in suicide. Psychologists have long documented that among the top predictors for suicide are diagnosable mental disorder, co-morbid substance use, loss of social support and availability and access to a firearm."

How does this refute anything I have stated? Intellectual people are more prone to be suicidal. It isn't the only factor, or even the sole factor, but it is still indeed a factor. You will also note that college students have a higher probability to commit suicide than those that do not go to college. Also all the high IQ professions such as physicians, dentists, lawyers, scientists, ALL have above average suicide rates. So how do you explain this?

 

[BlackVision]

There's an extremely small minority of non-white people starving to death. You don't have to believe everything your racist pseudoscientific media tell you. But you're too weak to look beyond your own small world.

Ah so Africans are not starving to death you say? I guess they do not need the billions of dollars of food aid other countries pump into that continent every year then aye.

Prescientific fantasy.

The "shonagon53" decoder: Prescientific fantasy = "I do not have the abililty to answer your questions. I will run and hide now"

 

[shonagon53]

It's also probably the reason why Japan has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. [...] The professions with the highest suicide rates are also physicians, dentists, scientists, lawyers, etc. Again the high end of the intelligence chain. Afterall, why would a mental retard have anything to be stressed and depressed about? They don't have a care in the world.

Japan ranks 21st. With a relatively low suicide rate. Northeastern Europe ranks first. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/hea_sui_rat_mal

Many third world countries have suicide rates higher than the US. Does this mean there are relatively speaking more dentists, physicians, scientists, lawyers, etc... in these countries? (Your earlier statement, vaguely lumping "Japan" - "professions"- "intelligence" - "suicide" together in something that vaguely resembles a todler's thought, seem to suggest this).

Man, you're so confused.

 

[BlackVision]

Japan ranks 21st. With a relatively low suicide rate. Northeastern Europe ranks first. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/hea_sui_rat_mal

21st out of 200+ countries means Japan has a low suicide rate? Oh ok I see how that works. And why is it that you give statistics for "male suicides only" Are there no women that commit suicide? Please tell me how Japan ranks with women weighed in.

Here are articles pointing to this "low suicide rate"

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/4768327.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/japan010904_suicide.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1524782.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/383823.stm
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3340456/

Many third world countries have suicide rates higher than the US. Does this mean there are relatively speaking more dentists, physicians, scientists, lawyers, etc... in these countries? (Your earlier statement, vaguely lumping "Japan" - "professions"- "intelligence" - "suicide" together in something that vaguely resembles a todler's thought, seem to suggest this).

Man, you're so confused.

"Intellectual people are more prone to be suicidal. It isn't the only factor, or even the sole factor, but it is still indeed a factor."--BlackVision

And I'm the one that's confused?? When you clearly had absolutely no ability to compute this bit of information?

By the way, when you actually get around to responding to all of my other statements let me know. There certainly is a wide gap in the content of replies between mine and yours.

 

[Monique]

I've been told that the suicide rates in Japan are high by a Japanese highly educated friend. The reason is pressure to excell, since WOII the country was in a bad state and had to rebuild their economy and technologies, in order to do so they had to cram a lot of information into their students and did. This caused the suicide rates to sore, but now the government has started to take away this kind of pressures by taking certain measures. I've been told by that same person that pi = 3.0 in Japan's high schools.. because it is easier to remember that 3.14159. So I've been told. It's an interesting story.

And again you CANNOT say anything about 'blacks' or 'whites', you need to specify cultural/ethnic groups. Everyone has the same potential to be succesfull, but historically not everyone is given that same chance.

Just look at India, what percentage is educated? Then look at Indians living in the US, what percentage is educated? So how does saying something about caucasian people or 'whites' say something about Indians? (because Indians ARE caucasian and thus belong to the white 'race' according to people who like to think in such skewed terms).

 

[shonagon53]

Dear Monique, I'm 100% with you. As you've noticed by now, my entire post was intended as irony, since there's so much pseudo-scientific nonsense about "race" on this message board. So I thought, let's turn this entire thing around.

I stick to my original point though: non-white people dominate the informal economy, which makes them superior to whites, in that particular field. ;-)

 

[shonagon53]

Monique, I'm glad you mention the role of "history". People need to understand more about such unpredictable dynamics and indeterminate things like history and contingency.

But these are rather complex concepts indeed and it requires courage to introduce them into debates about biological determinism.


[excuse me for my mediocre English, I'm not a native speaker.]

 

[Moonbear]

How does this refute anything I have stated? Intellectual people are more prone to be suicidal. It isn't the only factor, or even the sole factor, but it is still indeed a factor. You will also note that college students have a higher probability to commit suicide than those that do not go to college. Also all the high IQ professions such as physicians, dentists, lawyers, scientists, ALL have above average suicide rates. So how do you explain this?

Intellectual people are more prone than whom to be suicidal? In the link I provided, the only large scale, comprehensive study, conducted by NIOSH (National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health) indicated 3 groups of people stood out at highest risk for suicide. White male health professionals...okay, sure, they are educated, and would count as intellectuals; Black male guards...now, I can't speak for individuals in this group, but as a profession, it doesn't require a great deal of education and most wouldn't consider it an intellectual profession; and White female artists...well, most don't consider artists as intellectuals either, though, again, I can't speak to the individuals in the group, just that as a group, artistic talent doesn't require being an intellectual.

Here's a site that discusses suicide primarily among African-American youth:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/youth/jan-june98/suicide_5-6.html

"ELIZABETH BRACKETT: While suicide was once relatively rare among black teenagers, a study just released by the Center for Disease Control shows over the last two decades it has increased dramatically. The study found that while the suicide rate for white youth is still higher than for African-American youth, the rate of suicide for African-Americans is rising much faster. From 1980 to 1994, the suicide rate for whites age 15 to 19 went up 22 percent, while the rate for 15 to 19 year old blacks increased by 146 percent.

DR. CARL BELL: We should be worried about the increases; they are substantial.

ELIZABETH BRACKETT: Psychiatrist Carl Bell runs a community mental health center on the South side of Chicago. He has found that in Chicago the suicide rate for young blacks is even higher than for whites.

DR. CARL BELL: The common denominator is a major depression or psychiatric illness and a feeling of not being wanted or having a place in society, a sense of alienation. And when you have those two combinations, throw in alcohol and guns, you’ve got a potential suicide victim.

ELIZABETH BRACKETT: Bell, the co-author of a book on adolescent suicide and homicide, says poor black kids may kill themselves because they see their lives as hopeless, while more middle class black kids have different pressures."

This site describes the numerous risk factors for suicide: http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3004.htm

Or, more directly related to depression, here's something else:
http://www.beyondblue.org.au/vcoe/index.aspx?link_id=39.208

"The existence of depression and other mood disorders in people with intellectual disability (ID) is now well accepted and this group appears to be at a higher risk of depression than the general population (Menolascino,1990). Possible reasons for an inflated incidence include continuous exposure to adverse psycho-social experiences such as social rejection, loss and failure. The negative impact of these situations may be compounded by limited cognitive understanding, poor problem solving and deficits in social and interpersonal coping skills. A relationship between low levels of social support and both depressed mood and depressive disorder in people with ID has been reported (Meins, 1993)."

 

[franznietzsche]

Well Blackvision, do you honestly think that African governments have transparent accounts? Hilarious! But please keep believing that.

1. You know, the trillion dollar drug industry doesn't keep official records. The Nigerian government is not going to write "shipment of 25 tonnes of heroin to the U.S." under "fruit and vegetables exports".

You're probably not aware of the real purchasing power of many urban Africans, Asians and Latin Americans, created in the informal economy, which, as you have probably googled by now, is in the order of 20% of world GDP.

Black people are good when it comes to black market affairs. You keep things white, ok?

2. Comparatively speaking Africans consume more weed (a mild drug, which keeps them sharp), while American and European whites consume much more hard drugs.

3. If you know anything about drugs, you'll see that quasi the ENTIRE synthetic drug trade (amphetamines, XTC) produced in Belgium and the Netherlands, is in the hands of the Nigerian-Congolese Cartel. Moreover, virtually 60% all the heroin that comes from Burma and Afghanistan and which reaches the U.S. and Europe, passes via Nigeria. You really have to read up on this. I could go on about other commodities like coltan, diamonds, gold, uranium, etc...etc... So you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

4. I'm talking about non-whites in general, not about black Americans, who are a category on their own. (They live too close to whites, which makes them weak).

How dare you cry racism at other people? Congratulations not only have you proved yourself to be a racist, but you are also championing the drug trade controlled by murderers, so you are an immoral imbecile as well. Congratulations, I validate you!

 

[Jin314159]

How dare you cry racism at other people? Congratulations not only have you proved yourself to be a racist, but you are also championing the drug trade controlled by murderers, so you are an immoral imbecile as well. Congratulations, I validate you!

Haven't you heard? Anti-white is in. Chicks dig it.

 

[Marijn]

3. If you know anything about drugs, you'll see that quasi the ENTIRE synthetic drug trade (amphetamines, XTC) produced in Belgium and the Netherlands, is in the hands of the Nigerian-Congolese Cartel. Moreover, virtually 60% all the heroin that comes from Burma and Afghanistan and which reaches the U.S. and Europe, passes via Nigeria. You really have to read up on this. I could go on about other commodities like coltan, diamonds, gold, uranium, etc...etc... So you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

WRONG!
Production of X is mostly in hands of Dutch ppl.
50% of the market is co-shared with russian mob (kida a war going on right now)


So since this forum is supposed to be based upon science:

PROOF IT!​

 

[plus]

WRONG!
Production of X is mostly in hands of Dutch ppl.
50% of the market is co-shared with russian mob (kida a war going on right now)
So since this forum is supposed to be based upon science:

PROOF IT!​

Almost all of the drug dealers I see in the netherlands are black. Maybe they are black russians or senagalese descent people with dutch passports though. Many speak with African accents.

 

[Jim Beam]

Moreover, the white man has disturbed well organized non-white societies (with his colonial experiments). The non-whites had to adapt and cope, and they're doing tremendously well, considering the extreme barbaric violence of the colonial enterprise. The non-whites learned to adapt and use the white man's weapons against himself (a sign of grandiose superiority). Pakistan has nukes. North Korea has nukes. Americans can no longer simply bomb these countries (like white man used to do when "the natives" disobeyed). In short, non-whites have adapted in such a way that they are now becoming so powerful that they no longer need the white man.

It won't be long before the white man will feel what it's like to be colonized, humiliated, exploited and destroyed.

History's a b!tch, and whitey will feel it.

I prefer to look at it like this:

For hundreds or even thousands of years, white people(mostly European and surronding nations) were at war with each other constantly. Since necessity breeds invention, the white men were able to become far superior technologically than any other race in the world. This is why they were able to enslave blacks and form some of the greatest empires in the history of the world(Think Rome, think Britain, etc.) I'm not condoning any actions tooken by any whites, but I am making a point that a millenia of warfare should by all rights produce a superior emerging empire. Skin color doesn't matter. if you think that its payback time for whites, you should then compensate us for every home burnt down and every child tooken from its mother through the past six thousand years of warfare. You also can't say that arrogance and belligerence are exclusively white man traits.

 

[Monique]

Almost all of the drug dealers I see in the netherlands are black. Maybe they are black russians or senagalese descent people with dutch passports though. Many speak with African accents.

how would you know? you attrack drug dealers or something? I've never seen one wear a sign: "drugs for sale here". And just if a local population of dealers speak with an African accent, doesn't mean the whole of the Netherlands is in the hands of the Nigerian-Congolese Cartel.

 

[plus]

how would you know? you attrack drug dealers or something? I've never seen one wear a sign: "drugs for sale here". And just if a local population of dealers speak with an African accent, doesn't mean the whole of the Netherlands is in the hands of the Nigerian-Congolese Cartel.

They stand around in the streets of Amsterdam and say 'Cocaine' or 'charlie'. They do this because they know that the liberal police refuse to 'crack down' on them due to the ridiculous attitude of tolerance in the country. The people selling drugs on the street are almost all of African descent.

Similarly, in Thailand, there are many nigerians in prison due to the nigerian drug trade. I have no reason to believe that this is not the case in other countries across the world.

 

[Monique]

I don't know where in Amsterdam you've walked the streets or at what time, since I can seriously say I've never ever seen african people hanging the street, also, maybe only once or twice have I seen someone approaching people selling stuff and it was a white guy.

I don't think there is a ridiculous attitude of tolerance for drugs either, the police DOES crack down on people growing large quantities of plants. There was a problem with drug trait with Suriname.. where the police reinforced checking every single passenger that was traveling by airplane to or from that country.

But we're diverting from the thread topic.

 

[plus]

I don't know where in Amsterdam you've walked the streets or at what time

Any time. There are obviously more drug dealers in the red light district.

, since I can seriously say I've never ever seen african people hanging the street

Not a single black person hanging round in the street! I do not know which version of amsterdam you are thinking of, but it certainly does not resemble the modern day reality.

, also, maybe only once or twice have I seen someone approaching people selling stuff and it was a white guy.

OK that makes it all right then. The liberals have a smug little grin now.

I don't think there is a ridiculous attitude of tolerance for drugs either, the police DOES crack down on people growing large quantities of plants.

Hmm. Making pot and magic mushrooms legal. Not stopping people selling crack cocaine (which can seriously ruin peoples lives) or other hard drugs.

It is not off topic, as I am proving that the blacks are more effective drug dealers.

 

[Monique]

I said: "I've never ever seen african people hanging the street " You reply:

Not a single black person hanging round in the street! I do not know which version of amsterdam you are thinking of, but it certainly does not resemble the modern day reality.

since when does a black person = african person??!

Hmm. Making pot and magic mushrooms legal. Not stopping people selling crack cocaine (which can seriously ruin peoples lives) or other hard drugs.

Pot and mushrooms can only be grown or sold in personal-use quantities and is restricted to coffeeshops or the privacy of your house. Hard drugs are illegal. I'm dutch and I've never done drugs in my whole life, I have friends who smoke a joint once in a while in a coffeeshops and they are very normal people.

 

[Monique]

Just a little enlightenment on the roots of darker-complexed immigrants (or "black people", as mentioned) in the Netherlands:

Turkey: SE-Europe/ SW-Asia
Morocco: N-Africa, just below Spain (hardly Nigerian)
Antilles: Carribean, just above N-Venezuela
Suriname: N-S.America
Indonesia: SE-Asia

 

[selfAdjoint]

Just a little enlightenment on where the black people in the Netherlands come from:

Turkey: SE-Europe/ SW-Asia
Morocco: N-Africa, just below Spain (hardly Nigerian)
Antilles: Carribean, just above N-Venezuela
Suriname: N-S.America
Indonesia: SE-Asia

Since you mention "black" people, I assume the ones from Antilles and Suriname are descended from sub-Saharan African slaves brought there centuries ago. Turks were originally from North/North East Central Asia. They and Moroccans should not be classified as black. Unless of course you believe "Wogs begin at Louvain"

 

[Monique]

Wogs begin at Louvain? What is that supposed to mean?

OK, so let's replace black with brown, sheesj, or should I say mocca or beige or .. whatever.

 

[BlackVision]

Turks were originally from North/North East Central Asia. They and Moroccans should not be classified as black.

Turks and Moroccans are considered part of the Caucasian race.

 

[Monique]

People, why is this even being discussed.

Fact of the matter is that you cannot just classify people as African by virtue of their skin tone or suspicious accent.

This thread is closed.