ZapperZ said:But you would have known the CLEAR policy of this forum when you first signed up! Did you not read the Guidelnes, or did you think we were joking? You would have been aware of the strict policy of this forum and what possible actions that would have been taken. You continued ANYWAY!
... and please note that we DO have an IR forum that was clearly indicated in the forum guidelines designed for "testing" new ideas here.
And I would also say that you have the lack of empirical data to make sufficient conclusion about the progress of this forum SINCE the stricter rules have been instituted, and what it was before. If you are that concerned about methodology, then maybe you should be equally concerned about the validity of your 'data' to arrive at all your conclusion about PF.
Theres nothing worse than getting some guy post you comments or accusations, and then lock a reply. As if i was unreasonable.
There is no argument from me on the point you made. I read on a previous thread how this forum has gone through drastic improvements.
I stuck myself in the maths beginners section. That seems appropriate. I'm not here to test new ideas. They already have been tested by meta-analysis in structural neurochemistry and genetics, and approved by my peers.
What i'm trying to do is cross these results into another discipline, by the process wich requires me to learn and and transcribe them to maths. Immediately that makes me a beginner, even while getting into the spirit, and doing what i'm asked, buying books, refining what i'm trying to express, still i'm greeted with overtly unpleasant terms, i see repeatedly used here.
Nonsense, crackpot and gibberish.
Whats happened is that there has been a bad history here, and you've got stuck in some kind of automatic protection scheme, which involves rattling of accusations ad hoc. It also seems like everyone copies everyone else in this. The same insults are repeated, by several different people, you begin to wonder if any kind of dialouge is taking place at all.
What i think ends up happening is instilling a false ultra politeness, in those visiting students in need.
I've had a similiar kind of online experience in of all places of racist forums. Where those guys are so para'd up about american politics, that the forum consists of gang of mods which repeatedly and at the drop of the wrong word, wrongly accuse about every other new visitor of being brainwashed, iberals or jew trolls.
Interestingly that racist forum "stormfront" is also doing very well now, and refers to their pre-emptive insult policy as a key factor.
You've improved your forum, and gotten a new framework. Obviously it had previously been a bit of theoretical free for all, in the spirit which was an online trend a while back. This frustrated and wasted a lot of time.
Its time to chill out. your forum is not its going to revert,as the problem you had was a general one which was the spirit of the internet a while ago, when out planet was in less troubled times. This is not the only forum which has honed its rules like this. In the past year, I feel its happening just about everywhere. The age of endless philosophy and argument for the sake of itself has passed.
If you want a decent atmosphere, I am sure you can maintain this system, by replacing these offensive terms and imbue a civilised tone. These terms were directed at me as a beginner. i then found them offensive, spent about half the thread not talking about how to learn maths, but debating netiqutte and being on the defensive.
And then i am then accused of bringing a bad tone for doing this.
Since this is the feedback thread. I recommend the following replacements for the inflammatory and offensive terms.
Nonsense with wrong
Gibberish with Not understandable
Crackpot with get with program.
Of that ilk anyway. Thats my last word. I'll repeat, There is nothing wrong with your forum or its rules. Its been very helpfull. But too many problems with the tone brought by the offensive terms.
It would be for your own interest to figure out a better means of dialouge.