Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles is reducible?

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In summary, the conversation discusses a claim about integral domains and reducible elements. The claim states that a nonzero nonunit element in an integral domain that is not a product of irreducible elements is reducible. However, it is proven to be false by providing a counter-example using integers.
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Homework Statement


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Let R be an integral domain. Then a nonzero nonunit element in R that is not a product of irreducible elements is reducible.

Is this claim true?


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By definition, a product of irreducibles is reducible because irreducibles are not units. This implies if nonzero nonunit x is irreducible then it is not a product of irreducible elements.

I've tried to prove the above claim by contradiction supposing nonzero nonunit x is both not a product of irreducibles and x is irreducible. But by the above observation, I couldn't; the fact that x is irreducible and the fact that x is nonzero nonunit and not a product of irreducibles are consistnet.

Logically, the claim asserts that if x is nonzero nonunit and not a product of irreducibles then x is reducible. Let's call this statement P -> Q. And the above observation yields, kinda, that ~P -> Q. But this this yields every nonzero nonunit element in R is reducible, which is absurd.

So the claim should be false?
 
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The claim is false. The integers provide a good counter-example.
 
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Thanks a lot!
 

1. What does "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles" mean?

"Nonzero" means that the number is not equal to zero. "Nonunit" means that the number is not equal to one. "Non-product-of-irreducibles" means that the number cannot be expressed as a product of irreducible numbers (numbers that cannot be factored any further).

2. How do you determine if a number is "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles"?

To determine if a number fits this criteria, you can try to factor the number into its prime factors. If the number cannot be factored into any prime factors, or if any of the factors are equal to one, then the number is considered "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles".

3. Can a "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles" number be reduced?

Yes, a "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles" number can be reduced. This means that the number can be expressed as a product of irreducible numbers. For example, the number 6 is "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles" because it can be factored into 2 x 3, but it can also be reduced to 2 x 3 = 6.

4. What is the significance of a "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles" number?

A "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles" number is significant because it shows that the number cannot be broken down any further into smaller, simpler numbers. This can have implications in various mathematical concepts, such as prime numbers and factorization.

5. Is the concept of "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles" unique to numbers?

No, the concept of "Nonzero nonunit non-product-of-irreducibles" can also apply to other mathematical entities, such as polynomials. In this case, it means that the polynomial cannot be factored into smaller, irreducible polynomials. The concept can also be extended to other fields of study, such as chemistry and biology, where certain elements or organisms cannot be broken down any further.

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