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  1. Jul 14, 2006 #1
    I came across this story by chance - it's too funny not to share!

    Some football player (the American kind) explains his decision not to be involved in a public-safety advertisement (nothing wrong with that in itself, of course):

    (AP)

    Indeed, he makes his own decisions.
     
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  3. Jul 14, 2006 #2

    Astronuc

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    Crashing one's motorcycle into a car is probably not a good decision, especially when one is not wearing a helmet. :rolleyes: :biggrin:
     
  4. Jul 14, 2006 #3

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    He sounds like a right twit, or did he suffer brain damage? it all ways makes me cringe when i watch American chopper and you see guys wearing bandanas riding 1200cc bikes.
     
  5. Jul 14, 2006 #4

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    Did you say "some" football player??!! :bugeye:
     
  6. Jul 14, 2006 #5
    Probably he shouldn't be wearing a helmet while playing the game too. :biggrin:
     
  7. Jul 14, 2006 #6
    Some faceless football player. :rofl:
     
  8. Jul 14, 2006 #7
    It is the same with people who smoke, do drugs, eat only junk food, jump out of airplanes, box, play football, ride bulls etc.

    All these things have danger in them.
    Should they be illegal? I don't think so.

    As far as I am concerned it should be the drivers responsibility. By not wearing a helmet one does not endanger anyone else, so why should we care if they don't want to wear it. What is bright about that?

    I would be more concerned with things like talking on the cell phone while driving. That's, according to tests, just as dangerous as drunk driving. But that is legal, and that can harm other people.

    So why bother about making wearing a helmet illegal while letting people call while driving?
    What is bright about that? :confused:
     
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  9. Jul 14, 2006 #8

    Astronuc

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    Before or after he crashed into the car - then the pavement? :rolleyes:
     
  10. Jul 14, 2006 #9

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    Apparently, his coach tried making the same argument when trying to get him to wear a motorcycle helmet before the crash. His response to it was that he only wears one in football because the regulations require it. :eek: No, the accident didn't cause brain damage, he was like that before the accident.
     
  11. Jul 14, 2006 #10

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    I thought exactly the same thing. Obviously the OP isn't from the US. Here is a long thread about this incident from the Thumpertalk dirtbike forums that I frequent:

    http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384772

    And here is a good bit more info about Ben and the accident:

     
  12. Jul 14, 2006 #11

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    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    "I never meant any harm to others nor to break any laws," Roethlisberger said. "I was confident in my ability to ride a motorcycle and simply believed such an accident would not happen to me."

    I seem to know a person with such confidence with plenty of digs and dents
    to prove it is ill found.
     
  13. Jul 14, 2006 #12

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    Remember kids, it can happen to him.
     
  14. Jul 14, 2006 #13
    What, I've never heard of him. I have heard of the Steelers though, if that mitigates my offense somewhat...
     
  15. Jul 14, 2006 #14
    Touch down...quarterback...Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson
     
  16. Jul 15, 2006 #15

    NoTime

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    Ok, I gotta ask.

    How do you figure that adding 50% to the mass pushing your face into the windshield is a benefit.

    Basic physics says it would make matters worse.

    I looked one time and the only thing I found, related to helmet safety for motorcycles, was a comment that:
    "No study has ever been done on the merits of helmet usage with motorcycles."

    So are there any studies out there? References Please.

    PS: I haven't rode a bike in over 30 years, so this is curiosity.

    I do notice that in auto racing they are now requiring use of the Hans Device. Apparently, because the mass of the helmet was breaking too many necks. What additional good a helmet will do when you are already strapped into a padded roll cage escapes me.
     
  17. Jul 15, 2006 #16
    In similar news...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060715/ap_on_re_us/coors_dui [Broken]
     
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  18. Jul 15, 2006 #17

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    First, there is a new tool called Google. Try it sometime, you might find it valuable. I googled motorcycle helmet safety study, and got lots of hits. Here's the hit list for your reading pleasure:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=motorcycle+helmet+safety+study

    Second, you're right that wearing an open-face helmet will not help you in a face plant crash, and probably actually makes things worse. That's why beanie helmets are so worthless. That's why most responsible street riders wear full-face helmets. The ones that fit best give you a little bit of chipmunk cheeks -- they fit nice and tight around your whole head including your face and cheekbones and forehead. In a face plant, a lot of energy is absorbed by the padding in the forehead and cheeks. And in side and rear impacts, hopefully the padding makes sense to you.

    I have about 150,000 miles of performance commuting (year-round) on my sportbikes, plus many miles on the local racetracks here in Northern California. No way I'd ride without a helmet. Same for my dirtbiking and MX riding. Gotta protect you biggest asset. :rolleyes:
     
  19. Jul 15, 2006 #18
    you can't be serious...

    smash your forehead into a wall, then try it wearing a helmet.
     
  20. Jul 15, 2006 #19

    berkeman

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    I think he was referring to a faceplant, not a forehead smack. For the faceplant case with an open-face helmet, I think his physics is correct.
     
  21. Jul 15, 2006 #20
    oh my mistake =P yeah i can't imagine why people even bother wearing helmets if they dont have face shields
     
  22. Jul 15, 2006 #21

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    And it ain't even real football (pokes Gokul with a sharp stick). :biggrin:
     
  23. Jul 15, 2006 #22

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    I don't think anyone suggested that big the benefit of wearing a helmet is that it will save your face. If you hit something at 60mph, you're pretty much bound to come out looking like you went through a meat-grinder.

    What helmets do is make the one difference between living and dying: protecting the brain.
     
  24. Jul 15, 2006 #23

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    The person that was the subject of this thread got a faceplant injury.

    Except for motocross events, a full face helmet on the streets is a rarity.
    Although, in the last couple years I have noticed more people using them.

    Most of the items that came up in your link are quite new and weren't there the last time I looked a few years ago.
    This is a personal opinion, but much of what I looked at seems to be a lot of data cooking.
    As I pointed out I don't have a bike, so you can take that for what its worth.

    I pulled the following statements from
    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inj...le/FlaMCReport/images/FloridaMCReportscr1.pdf

    You are more likely to die if you are wearing a helmet :eek:

    Looks like the odds for helmet wearers improved in 2001. :confused:
    I gotta wonder if they changed the rules on what constitutes "incapacitating injury"
    Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a breakdown of types of injury and number of occurrences.

    If I take up riding again, I don't think a helmet is going to be on my must have list.:mad:
     
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  25. Jul 15, 2006 #24
    .... brilliant.

    by the way you won't see anyone riding a sport bike without a helmet (a real one)... a little odd considering cruisers aren't any safer don't you think?
     
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  26. Jul 15, 2006 #25

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    All I can say is, that if you don't wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle, don't be surprised if you get a Darwin Award.

    It's STUPID not to improve your chances of survival by wearing a helmet. No, head injuries aren't the only cause of death from motorcycle accidents, most deaths come from internal injuries. Don't be stupid about it just because a helmet can't prevent other injuries. I know someone whose life was probably saved by his helmet, the outside of the helmet actually cracked, if that had been his bare head that hit the pavement, he wouldn't have been alive to look at it.
     
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