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November 2004

  1. Civil war. Democratic party outlawed. Democratic cities used as concentration camps

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  2. Massive civil disorder crushed by black-clad 'police.' Martial law declared. Bush becomes first out

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  3. Sporatic protests subdued under heel of local cops. protest fails, peace resumes

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  4. No meaningful protests, Bush glibly continues reign, repeals 22nd amendment

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  5. Legal challenges against the president are successful, Bush defeated.

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  6. Bush Impeached, recount unfeasable- Russian style re-vote without Diebold machines

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  1. Dec 9, 2003 #1
    Picture this scenario: November 2004. After months of mud-slinging and scripted 'debates,' Bush is re-elected in a landslide against Dean. However, in a subsequent investigation, it is revealed that all the states he won used Diebold voting machines with no paper reciepts. Every state that did not use the voting machines went to Dean. After Bush is sworn into office, investigators discover proof that the machines were rigged and the voting results are fraudulent.
    What is the result?
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  3. Dec 9, 2003 #2
    Nothing. The media will support Bush, the Supreme Court will support Bush, and Bush will be selected once again.

    RE-Elect Gore in 2004!!!
  4. Dec 9, 2003 #3


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    Bushies steal election in 2004, nothing happens immediately, but Bush's chickens (tax cuts, alienation of allies, etc. etc.) come home to roost in his second term. Rising indignation. Amendment requiring paper trails in voting passes quickly both in congress and the states. More chickens come in. Great world depression. Terrorists everywhere. Washington D.C. is nuked, and nobody knows by whom. Revolution of the army. Military government says 2008 elections postponed. Supreme Court bows to crisis. That's it for the U.S. of A.
  5. Dec 10, 2003 #4
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    I don't think Gore will be running anytime soon, he already endorsed Howard Dean.
    Another article I read is the Republicans will portray Dean as this left wing liberal so as to lower his chances. Karl Rove was alleged to be rallying support for Dean because he believes of all the candidates, Dean is less likely to win against Bush.

    It will be an interesting year..
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  6. Dec 11, 2003 #5
    I've heard that some republicans are supporting Dean financially, because of course they want to see Bush destroy him. In 1932, Republicans helped FDR win the nomination because they wanted to see Hoover destroy him. Ironic thing is, Clarke's probably the best man for the job, but doesn't have the ability to humiliate Bush in a debate that Dean does, and sooo many Democrats want to see that happen.

    Nepotism--it's genetic
  7. Dec 11, 2003 #6
    There was a New York Times article, Republicans for Dean.
    You're right. Clarke is strong on National Security as well, being a West Point graduate, Rhodes scholar, former general. But he doesn't have the feistyness and aggressiveness that Dean has. Bush will crush him in the debate.

    I think Dean should pick him as his vice-president, what Dean lack in security, Clarke can provide it they will balance each other out.
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    Sorry, I don't do absurd hypotheticals. However, if I were president...
  9. Dec 11, 2003 #8
    Is Howard Dean The Crypto-Republican Candidate?
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  10. Dec 11, 2003 #9


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    Or just listen to Dean and get really confused :wink: I think Deans real problem is that he appears to be a verbal thinker...and you just can't blurt out these oddities and then correct them afterward..depending on the goodwill of the public and media to understand...what you really meant.
  11. Dec 11, 2003 #10
    Why not? Bush blurts out lies and then corrects them later, and he seems to do ok.
  12. Dec 11, 2003 #11


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    Are you aware that the primary votes on the Democratic side will be evaluated through proportional representation by congressional district? This means that Carol Mosley Brown et al. will have votes to deal with at the convention. There is an outside but conceivable chance of a brokered convention, when "Anybody but Dean" meets "Dean and only Dean" with close votes. And who would be the choice of a brokered convention? (No not Hillary!).

    So then Gore's dilemma is, should he support the little guys and boost the anti-Dean vote, or the opposite? He is a very smart guy, and I'll bet he has it all worked out.

    But whatever, the nomination is going to be more complex than Dean beats Clark in (name your state).
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