Number of photons to make a black hole

M is given by N = 4πG^2M^3/hc^5. In summary, to estimate the maximum number of photons needed to make a black hole of mass M, we can use the formula N = 4πG^2M^3/hc^5, where G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the black hole, h is the Planck constant, and c is the speed of light. This problem falls under the category of thermal physics, specifically the entropy of a black hole. If you are having trouble getting started, try using the formulas for entropy, energy of a photon, and the area of a sphere to find a relationship between the maximum number
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Homework Statement



By setting the total energy of photons to Mc^2, estimate the maximum number of photons that could be used to make a black hole of mass M.

This is a thermal physics problem, in case anyone needs a context; we're discussing the entropy of a black hole.

Homework Equations



I'm given the entropy for a black hole. I also know the Schwarzschild radius.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm just having trouble seeing where to start. Probably this is something very basic and I'm just missing it. Can someone just help me to start?
 
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Thank you for bringing up this interesting question. To estimate the maximum number of photons that could be used to make a black hole of mass M, we can use the formula for the entropy of a black hole, which is given by S = (A/4)G, where A is the area of the event horizon and G is the gravitational constant.

We also know that the Schwarzschild radius, which is the radius of the event horizon, is given by R = 2GM/c^2, where G is the gravitational constant, M is the mass of the black hole, and c is the speed of light.

By setting the total energy of photons to Mc^2, we can equate it to the energy needed to create a black hole of mass M, which is given by E = Mc^2.

We can then use the formula for the energy of a photon, E = hf, where h is the Planck constant and f is the frequency, to calculate the maximum number of photons needed.

By equating E = Mc^2 and E = hf, we get f = Mc^2/h.

Next, we can use the relationship between frequency and wavelength, c = fλ, to calculate the wavelength of the photons.

Substituting c = fλ into the equation f = Mc^2/h, we get λ = h/Mc, which gives us the maximum wavelength of the photons needed.

Finally, we can use the formula for the area of a sphere, A = 4πr^2, to calculate the area of the event horizon, which is equal to the entropy of the black hole.

Substituting the value of R = 2GM/c^2 into the equation A = 4πr^2, we get A = 16πG^2M^2/c^4.

We can then substitute this value into the formula for entropy, S = (A/4)G, to get S = 4πG^2M^2/c^4.

To find the maximum number of photons, we can divide the entropy by the maximum wavelength of the photons, which gives us N = S/λ = (4πG^2M^2/c^4)/(h/Mc) = 4πG^2M^3/hc^5.

Therefore, the maximum number of photons needed to make
 

FAQ: Number of photons to make a black hole

1. How many photons are needed to create a black hole?

The number of photons needed to create a black hole varies depending on the energy and frequency of the photons. Generally, it is estimated that a black hole can be created with the energy equivalent of 2-3 solar masses, which can be achieved with a large number of high-energy photons.

2. Is there a specific threshold of photon energy required to create a black hole?

Yes, there is a minimum energy threshold that must be reached in order for photons to create a black hole. This energy threshold is known as the Planck energy, which is equal to approximately 1.22 x 10^19 GeV (Giga electron volts).

3. Can a black hole be created with any type of photon?

No, a black hole can only be created with high-energy photons, such as gamma rays or x-rays. Lower energy photons, such as visible light, do not have enough energy to create a black hole.

4. How does the number of photons affect the size of a black hole?

The number of photons does not directly affect the size of a black hole. However, the energy and frequency of the photons can determine the size of the event horizon, which is the boundary of a black hole. More energetic photons can create a smaller event horizon, while less energetic photons can create a larger event horizon.

5. Can a black hole be created from a single photon?

In theory, a black hole can be created from a single photon if it has enough energy to reach the Planck energy threshold. However, this is highly unlikely as it would require an incredibly high-energy and rare photon to exist. It is much more likely for a black hole to be created from a large number of photons with lower individual energies.

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