Number Theory - Largest Impossible Score

In summary: Keep up the good work!In summary, the conversation discusses finding a formula for the largest unattainable score in a game where points can be scored in multiples of m or n, and the use of complete residue systems in the proof. The formula found is mn - (m+n), and it is proven by considering the set of all possible scores and the set of impossible scores, both represented as a complete residue system mod m.
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Edit: I finally figured this problem out, although I didn't use residue systems, so a solution is no longer necessary.

Homework Statement



For this problem, I need to find a fomula for the largest unattainable score in a game where you can either score m or n points at a time (m and n are relatively prime) and prove that this formula will always work. Complete residue systems are suggested to be used in the proof.

Homework Equations



{0, n, 2n, 3n, ... , (m-1)n} is a complete residue system mod m when m and n are relatively prime.

The Attempt at a Solution



Through trial and error, I have found that the largest impossible score is mn - (m+n). I'm stuck, however, on proving this. I don't even know how to start, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Great job on finding a solution to the problem! It is always satisfying to figure out a difficult problem. However, I would like to suggest that you revisit the use of complete residue systems in your proof. it is important to have a strong and logical reasoning behind any solution or theory we propose.

To start, let's define a complete residue system (CRS) as a set of numbers that, when divided by a certain number, leave different remainders. In this case, our CRS is {0, n, 2n, 3n, ... , (m-1)n} mod m. This means that when we divide these numbers by m, we will get different remainders ranging from 0 to m-1.

Now, let's consider the game where we can score m or n points at a time. In order for a score to be impossible, it must be larger than any combination of m and n that we can achieve. This means that the largest impossible score must be mn - (m+n), as you have found.

To prove this, let's consider the set of all possible scores that we can achieve in the game. This set can be represented as {0, n, 2n, 3n, ... , (m-1)n, m, m+n, 2m, 2m+n, ... , (m-1)m, (m-1)m+n}. Notice that this set is the same as our CRS mod m, except for the addition of multiples of m. This is because every time we score m points, we can also score (m+n) points by scoring n points as well.

Now, let's consider the set of impossible scores. This set can be represented as {mn, mn+n, mn+2n, ... , mn+(m-1)n}. Notice that this set is also the same as our CRS mod m, except for the addition of multiples of mn. This is because every time we score mn points, we can also score (mn+n) points by scoring n points as well.

Since our CRS mod m contains all possible remainders, and our set of impossible scores also contains all possible remainders, we can conclude that the largest impossible score must be the largest remainder in our CRS mod m, which is mn - (m+n).

I hope this helps to clarify the use of complete residue systems in your proof.
 

1. What is number theory?

Number theory is a branch of mathematics that deals with the properties and relationships of integers.

2. What is the largest impossible score in number theory?

The largest impossible score in number theory is known as the "unattainable number" or "inaccessible number". It is the highest number that cannot be achieved by adding or multiplying any combination of smaller numbers.

3. How is the largest impossible score determined?

The largest impossible score is determined using a method called "parity analysis". This involves looking at the divisibility of a number by different prime factors and determining if it is possible to reach that number using those factors.

4. Is the largest impossible score the same for all numbers?

No, the largest impossible score varies depending on the number being analyzed. For example, the largest impossible score for the number 10 is 5, while the largest impossible score for the number 100 is 10.

5. What is the practical application of knowing the largest impossible score in number theory?

Knowing the largest impossible score in number theory can help in solving mathematical problems involving divisibility and prime numbers. It also has applications in cryptography and computer science.

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