Obama is reelected

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I must say that I'm getting some serious Schadenfreude from republicans right now.

So I guess the polls were right after all and not some liberal conspiracy.
 

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i'll celebrate when it is sure, but i am beginning to relax.
 
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I don't know if Obama did really well or Romney just goofed off. Romney had a good chance to win but he just failed to prove how he is going to handle economy.

It was a really big challenge for Obama to win and I think Obama deserves some credit for getting reelected in tough times.
 
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I don't know if Obama did really well or Romney just goofed off. Romney had a good chance to win but he just failed to prove how he is going to handle economy.

It was a really big challenge for Obama to win and I think Obama deserves some credit for getting reelected in tough times.
I'll give a more complete post-mortem tomorrow, but I think the election was - ironically - much more about Romney (and a Frankenstorm) than Obama. There were a number of big moments where Romney came up short.
 
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I'll give a more complete post-mortem tomorrow, but I think the election was - ironically - much more about Romney (and a Frankenstorm) than Obama. There were a number of big moments where Romney came up short.
Considering y'all's shellacking in the Senate, I'm pretty sure the election was - ironically - much more about Republicans.
 
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I am watching tv now and all the commentators, including republican apologists, are saying that their party cannot survive if it does not abandon its anti - gay, anti - immigrant, stance. this alone is a tremendous advance for america. i hope the day of intolerance and racism is again losing its grip on our politics.
 
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Republicans will come more in the TV if they continue making comments like binders full of women, rape etc. They need to have more intelligent people.
 
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I am watching tv now and all the commentators, including republican apologists, are saying that their party cannot survive if it does not abandon its anti - gay, anti - immigrant, stance. this alone is a tremendous advance for america. i hope the day of intolerance and racism is again losing its grip on our politics.
Yes, what I'm hearing is that the Republican party is out of touch with the mainstream, younger generation and changing demographics.
 
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I am watching tv now and all the commentators, including republican apologists, are saying that their party cannot survive if it does not abandon its anti - gay, anti - immigrant, stance. this alone is a tremendous advance for america. i hope the day of intolerance and racism is again losing its grip on our politics.
I'm not sure that's possible for the republican party. If it tried to change, it would lose the south and become irrelevant. And the south isn't about to change any time soon. I think a future problem is going to be political stability in the south.
 
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I am watching tv now and all the commentators, including republican apologists, are saying that their party cannot survive if it does not abandon its anti - gay, anti - immigrant, stance. this alone is a tremendous advance for america. i hope the day of intolerance and racism is again losing its grip on our politics.
If the commentators are saying that, they're being disingenuous, particularly about immigration. Republicans are not anti-immigration, they are anti-illegal immigration.
 
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Yes, what I'm hearing is that the Republican party is out of touch with the mainstream, younger generation and changing demographics.
I suppose by definition if you are 1% away from the center you are not in the mainstream, but that's a pretty small margin. Also, yes, the Republican party is the party of old people, definitely. But it isn't like that has changed in decades. What changes is the young people that vote Democrat get older and switch to Republican.
 
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Romney was a god awful choice.
 
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I still think Romney's loss had it's roots in the "Stupidest Statement by a Presidential Candidate, Ever".
 
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I still think Romney's loss had it's roots in the "Stupidest Statement by a Presidential Candidate, Ever".
I think the auto bailout won the election.
 
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actually young southerners are much less racist than us oldsters, or maybe it is just the ones in my neighborhood.
 
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The republicans possibly put up the most inept challenger available in an election that was theirs to lose. Obama was perceived as the lesser of evils, not the great hope for the future. I'd have loved to seen a sincere and pragmatic fiscal conservative as an option, but, americans have an ingrained and historic ability to ignore reality. Assuming we recognize the EU template is not the road to prosperity, politics may change for the better after another 4 years of the less than thinly disguised path toward socialism.
 
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I wonder how much Hurricane Sandy affected the election. Obama benefited a lot by having that very blunt Republican, Chris Christie, praise him big-time.
 
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I wonder how much Hurricane Sandy affected the election. Obama benefited a lot by having that very blunt Republican, Chris Christie, praise him big-time.
Not much, if at all. This is from analysts saying it had little, if any, effect, and being in the midwest, Sandy was a non-event for us. Probably the same for most of the US.

People here don't know who Christie is and the storm was "whatever", we deal with tornadoes and horrendous weather systems every year. People near me are still dealing with the Joplin tornado, 160 dead in just one part of town. The Alabama tornadoes, 350 dead.
 
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So Obama just gave.. a good speech. I think that was the best speech he's ever given.
 
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I wonder how much Hurricane Sandy affected the election. Obama benefited a lot by having that very blunt Republican, Chris Christie, praise him big-time.
According to the poll aggregators like Nate Silver, not very much. The polls correctly predicted every state race, so its probably safe to say they were a decent representation of public opinion.
 
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Not much, if at all. This is from analysts saying it had little, if any, effect, and being in the midwest, Sandy was a non-event for us. Probably the same for most of the US.

People here don't know who Christie is and the storm was "whatever", we deal with tornadoes and horrendous weather systems every year. People near me are still dealing with the Joplin tornado, 160 dead in just one part of town. The Alabama tornadoes, 350 dead.
According to the poll aggregators like Nate Silver, not very much. The polls correctly predicted every state race, so its probably safe to say they were a decent representation of public opinion.
I see, good to know. One other thing I was wondering is if there is a population of people who in healthy economic times would have voted for Romney, but due to the lack of employment opportunities, and considering how Romney was talking about cutting this and that, were fearful that they might lose their homes and so forth if Romney was elected, and thus voted for Obama.
 
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Congratulations to President Obama! So happy he won!
 
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I see, good to know. One other thing I was wondering is if there is a population of people who in healthy economic times would have voted for Romney, but due to the lack of employment opportunities, and considering how Romney was talking about cutting this and that, were fearful that they might lose their homes and so forth if Romney was elected, and thus voted for Obama.
I'm more curious whether Republicans will accept that this was a referendum against their ideology, and has nothing to do with hurricanes (which, if anything, would suppress the vote), bailouts (which affected only one swing state, which was not necessary in the Obama machine), or the job security of voters.
 
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I'm more curious whether Republicans will accept that this was a referendum against their ideology, and has nothing to do with hurricanes (which, if anything, would suppress the vote), bailouts (which affected only one swing state, which was not necessary in the Obama machine), or the job security of voters.
I doubt it was a referendum against Republican ideology any more than the 2010 Congressional elections were a rejection of Democratic party ideology.
 

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