Is there ANY scientific basis of OBEs or Astral Projections, or remote viewing? and whether it is possible or not to project astrally?
zoobyshoe said:Dayle Record, I think that experience is quite different than an "OBE", not that I know what to call it: from your description it sounds like you were "beamed" somewhere else, body and all. I don't think I've ever heard a story about something like that before.
Maybe that's the right term, in general. Hard to say. The term "bilocation" doesn't really do justice to the padre's alleged ability to hover in the air at the altitude of airplanes. Dayle Record's experience doesn't quite fit that term either since her experience in "Chicago" was apparently set at a different time of day. Perhaps: "Bitemporal bilocation."fi said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilocation
I had simply assumed the ashram Dayle Record lived in was in India and that time zones accounted for the difference in time. I guess this is because I have heard of other instances where this experience started in India. Bitemporal bilocation sounds like a good term. I wonder, are there implications of this that involve bilocating into the future!zoobyshoe said:Maybe that's the right term, in general. Hard to say. The term "bilocation" doesn't really do justice to the padre's alleged ability to hover in the air at the altitude of airplanes. Dayle Record's experience doesn't quite fit that term either since her experience in "Chicago" was apparently set at a different time of day. Perhaps: "Bitemporal bilocation."
Good point. The word "ashram" completely slipped by me. If she was in India then we don't need to add "bitemporal".fi said:I had simply assumed the ashram Dayle Record lived in was in India and that time zones accounted for the difference in time.
It sounds like these things happen randomly to you, in a chaotic manner, and you see a difference between them and things associated with meditation. I would first have yourself checked out for any possible brain condition before applying a mystical interpretation (i.e. that we are a "field" rather than what we usually appear to be). Falling into these experiences, which you feel are related to dream states, is not common or normal, and I think you should rule out anything like MS or whatever.Dayle Record said:The Ashram was in the western US, the time sequence was way off. I have had plenty of other experiences like this one that I categorize as active dreaming. However the richness of these experiences, and the foreign terrain, and unknown players, and even glimpses in mirrors, where I am plainly not "my western us in this timeline self", lead me to believe that the "field" that comprises us, is not exclusive to the physical form that is our regular habitation. It seems to be an art or an aberrance, or a bit of borrowed memory that is accessible on an organically irregular basis. The stuff that was not linked to yoga practice directly, is linked to dream states.
I worry that there is some sort of steady, or at least knowable field of energetic endeavors, that partially comprises life, that might be damaged by our overuse of every available em frequency. It is obvious that the "navigational aids" the Navies of the world use are very damaging to sea creatures. I wonder what kinds of non physical realities exist that are disrupted by our mundane doings. Oh yes, there used to be a heaven, but it
is gone, Cingular bought out the frequency etc...PHP:
The OBE is a common simple partial seizure symptom. Your experiences, which are more elaborate, might in fact, also have a purely neurological origin. This is Mind and Brain Sciences, I'm allowed to point things like that out. I pulled MS out of the grab bag as a "for instance" because it is like simple partial seizures in that it manifests with a huge variety of symptoms from person to person, depending on what part of the brain is affected. Traumatic brain injury is the same, although there's no point in mentioning that because you'd know if you had a TBI, but there are also brain tumors and migraine at the root of alot of experiences some people interpret as mystical. There are a few other organic causes of strange experiences I've never gotten around to reading up on in detail. It's just common sense to suggest to anyone reporting elaborate experiences like this to get checked out neurologically, especially someone prone to first look at such things in mystical terms since they are the least likely to think it might have a neurological cause.Dayle Record said:This thread is about OBE's or Astral Projection, not about Multiple Sclerosis or diagnoses. I don't have MS, or any symptoms.
I'm not being pedantic here, I have experienced phenomena that sound similar in many respects to the experiences you have related here, from the use of an NMDA antagonist."This thread is about OBE's or Astral Projection, not about Multiple Sclerosis or diagnoses. I don't have MS, or any symptoms."
I'm confused by this statement. Could you rephrase what you mean??Dayle Record said:In this thread I see that if anyone states they have any sort of anomalous experience, there will be an explanation, that the experiencer is having delusions.
I'm especially confused about this. What is this "warning" about? What does the term "existential physics" mean?Be warned, this thread is not about existential physics.