Can You Really Observe a Wave Function Without Collapsing It?

In summary, observing a state or collapsing a wave function refers to a thermodynamically irreversible effect that changes the state of the system. This has nothing to do with humans and does not require any extra caution around a quantum computer. Observing is equivalent to applying a projection operator to the wave function, not a Hermitian operator as is commonly thought.
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What exactly do you mean by observing a state/ collapsing wave function. What is observing? Is it seeing the particle? Hearing?
Also how cautious do you have to be near a quantum computer so that you don't collapse its wave function?
 
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You don't have to be any more cautious around a quantum computer than around any other lab equipment. As long as you don't trip into the dilution refrigerator and pull all of the wires out in some kind of zany fall, you'll be fine.

The definition you should have in mind for "the state collapsed" is "thermodynamically irreversible effect that depended on the state of the system". It has nothing at all to do with humans.
 
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Debaa said:
What exactly do you mean by observing a state/ collapsing wave function. What is observing? Is it seeing the particle? Hearing?
Also how cautious do you have to be near a quantum computer so that you don't collapse its wave function?

Observing must be equivalent to applying some operator to the wave function which changes the state. Is there a measurement operator?
 
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mike1000 said:
Observing must be equivalent to applying some operator to the wave function which changes the state. Is there a measurement operator?
Hermitian operator.
 
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Debaa said:
What exactly do you mean by observing a state/ collapsing wave function. What is observing? Is it seeing the particle? Hearing? Also how cautious do you have to be near a quantum computer so that you don't collapse its wave function?

Collapsing is not part of the QM formalism - only of some interpretations. In those interpretations its the instantaneous change in state after an observation. The usual interpretation that has it is Copenhagen where the instantaneous thing isn't worried about because it's simply a state of knowledge that appears in a theorists calculations - its like the Bayesian view of probability - who cares if your knowledge of something suddenly changes.

An observation is trickier. That's because at the beginner and intermediate level its sort of left up in the air as some kind of 'mark' or something that happens here in the common sense classical world. That is a bit of a blemish because QM is supposed to explain that classical world - how can it explain what's assumed in the first place.

In more advanced treatments an observation is a purely quantum process that happens once decoherence occurs without detailing what that is. That way the issue is resolved, but, again without going into details, some problems still remain.

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mike1000 said:
Observing must be equivalent to applying some operator to the wave function which changes the state. Is there a measurement operator?

Debaa said:
Hermitian operator.

This is a common misconception. You do not apply a Hermitian operator that corresponds to a measurement to the state to get the state after the measurement. That will be correct (except the normalization) only if the state is an eigenstate of the operator (so it is unchanged). The correct operator to apply, assuming that repeating the measurement immediately gives the same outcome, is the projection operator corresponding to the observed outcome.
 

1. What is a wave function?

A wave function is a mathematical expression that describes the behavior and properties of a quantum system, such as the position and momentum of a particle. It is a fundamental concept in quantum mechanics and is used to predict the probability of finding a particle in a particular state at a specific time.

2. How is a wave function observed?

A wave function is not directly observable, as it is a mathematical concept. However, its effects can be observed through experiments and measurements. These measurements can provide information about the probability of finding a particle in a certain state and can be used to verify the predictions of the wave function.

3. What is the role of the observer in observing a wave function?

The observer plays a crucial role in observing a wave function. In quantum mechanics, the act of observation can cause a wave function to collapse, meaning that the particle's state becomes determined. This is known as the observer effect and highlights the interconnectedness between the observer and the observed system.

4. How does the wave function change over time?

The wave function is governed by the Schrödinger equation, which describes how it evolves over time. As a particle moves and interacts with its environment, the wave function changes to reflect these changes. This allows us to predict the future behavior of a quantum system.

5. Is it possible to observe a wave function without affecting it?

No, it is not possible to observe a wave function without affecting it. This is due to the observer effect, where the act of observation causes the wave function to collapse. However, there are techniques and methods in quantum mechanics that minimize the disturbance caused by observation, allowing for more accurate measurements of the wave function.

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