On the nature of love

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Before one can deny ones self of something one must first know what it is they need and want. Denying ones own desires only denies one of the desire to live. Learning about what life has to offer is what provides us with the desire to live.

Contempt for human limitations brings you nothing in the bargain. Contempt for ones own mind, is contempt for how one learns to live and demonstrates contempt for existence itself. Claiming knowledge does not provide one with knowledge and denying the process by which one gains knowledge, (by using and respecting ones mind), is an attempt to make yourself believe that you are not afraid to discover your own true nature.

A love without meaning is meaningless. A love devoid of values has no value. Wishful thinking will not force reality to respond in your favor. And your participation in a mutual contempt society will not bring you honor for yourself or from anyone else.

I harbor no jealousy for those who do not respect their own minds or themselves.
 
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you don't even know who or what you are? find this first.
 
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I love myself so that I may realize my potential to give love to and receive love from those who have a realization of their potential to do likewise. It's called trading value for value. Love rewards those who have taken the time to understand what it is and have put forth the effort to make it real.
 
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trading value for value is business. commercialism. know the difference.
Love is not "for sale". to be bartered or traded for the right price. business is done for the aggrandizement of the self; through (Hopefully) a mutual form of self-aggrandizement, whereby two parties share a gain that is profittable to them.

Love is not calculated. Love is because there is Love. Love does not need a reason. Love is a reason. love needs nothing in return. ego needs everything in return, for its satisfaction. "screw the rest", (whether consciously or unconsciously) "as long as i get mine". your idea of love is a disguised form of prejudice and pleasure-seeking. how can you love anything when you are so concered with your own pleasure.

on can then ask, "do you love the person, or do you love what you get from the person?" there is a BIG difference.
 
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I love being appreciated for what I am. I recognize that anything else is baseless and therefore worthless.
 
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Those who believe pleasure can be obtained by inflicting pain should stick to the practice of inflicting pain upon themselves. I encourage those who believe they can help by hurting to help themselves to all the hurt they can lavish upon themselves.
It is not that you are; it is what you are that counts. It is not because love exists; it is why and how it exists that defines it quality.
Only after understanding the meaning and value of love do we find reason to do what we must to be worthy of love. The value of love that we seek is determined by how well we understand it and is limited only by how well we achieve that understanding. Love cannot be borrowed or stolen; love is made. You can not give what you do not possess. The potential to have something must be realized by getting it. Value can not be taken from the unwilling, value is earned and once earned, deserved. Love is both the reason and the reward for becoming the best that we can be.
 
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Dmstifik8ion said:
Love cannot be borrowed or stolen; love is made. You can not give what you do not possess.

if Love is not for the Whole, is it not a prejudice for some part? (very simple question, needing very simple answer.)

can Love be prejudice? Exclusion? increasing seperation?

or, is love uniting? is it inclusive? accepting?

i think that is it obvious that the former are qualities of Ignorance, while the latter are qualities of Love. (Love does not say, "you are not worthy of respect and care.". rather, it acknowledges, "yes, you are worthy and cared for.") this is plain and simple.

finally, can one claim to have/be Love, at all, if their "love" is, at the same time as "loving", shunning and seperative? isn't that one disrespecting and not caring for. Love is not this way.

all action and desire is two-fold. EXCEPT for Love. Love is always, only what Love is. It is never, at the same time, hatred or prejudice. do you make sense of this?

i know that the concept is very high and one can not easily ascend to such heights, but it must be evaluated.

to "love" one thing/person and not another is really to avoid/ exclude some other thing. Love is not a business. it is not a system of gain and loss. it is always full, no matter how much is taken from it. see?

you don't. it's not a matter of knowing, but of seeing. don't try to "out-know". this matter is concluded. those who can see, have seen. those who are stubborn are pleased to remain ignorant.

this is not a competition. competition is immaturity. Love is maturity.
 

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