What are some examples of open subsets that are not manifolds?

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between open subsets in Euclidean space and manifolds of different dimensions. It is concluded that an open subset in Euclidean space must be of the same dimension as the parent space, and therefore cannot be open in a higher or lower dimensional space. This is supported by the concept of dimension and the invariance of domain theorem.
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Hello,

I was wondering if it is true that any open subset Ω in ℝn, to which we can associate an atlas with some coordinate charts, is always a manifold of dimension n (the same dimension of the parent space).
Or alternatively, is it possible to find a subset of ℝn that is open, but it is a manifold of dimension lower than n?

In ℝ3 I cannot think of any open subset that would be a curve or a surface. So it would seem that in this case open subset implies manifold of dimension 3 (provided we can find atlas and charts to cover it).

Does this hold in general?

Thanks.
 
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By definition,in an open subset of Euclidean space every point has a neighborhood that is an open ball. The coordinate transformations can be taken to be the identity map.
 
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The definition of "open set" requires that, for every point, there exist a "neighborhood" of that point contained in the set. "Neighborhoods" in an n-dimensional manifold are themselves n-dimensional so the answer to your question is "no". An open set in an n-dimensional manifold must be n-dimensional.
 
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mnb96 said:
Hello,

Or alternatively, is it possible to find a subset of ℝn that is open, but it is a manifold of dimension lower than n?

Thanks.

The concept of dimension is well defined. That is: an open subset of Euclidean space can not be open in either a higher of lower dimensional Euclidean space.
 
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1. What is an open subset?

An open subset is a subset of a topological space that contains all of its limit points. In other words, every point in an open subset has a neighborhood that is also contained within the subset.

2. What is a manifold?

A manifold is a topological space that locally resembles Euclidean space. This means that around each point in the manifold, there is a neighborhood that is homeomorphic to an open subset of Euclidean space.

3. What is the difference between an open subset and a closed subset?

An open subset contains all of its limit points, while a closed subset contains all of its boundary points. In other words, an open subset does not include its boundary points, while a closed subset does.

4. How are open subsets and manifolds related?

Open subsets are an important concept in the study of manifolds because manifolds are defined as topological spaces that locally resemble Euclidean space, and open subsets are a fundamental concept in topology.

5. What are some examples of manifolds?

Some examples of manifolds include the surface of a sphere, a torus, a cylinder, and a cone. These are all examples of 2-dimensional manifolds. In general, any n-dimensional surface that can be locally approximated by n-dimensional Euclidean space is a manifold.

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