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Ophthalmic migraine

  1. Apr 16, 2005 #1

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    I had a very weird experience earlier today. I suddenly noticed a thin glowing white crescent filled with black geometrical designs in my peripheral vision.

    The only way I can explain it is if you were to take a thin glowing ring and cut it in half, keeping only the left half. It's glowing white, but is filled with portions of concentric circles and diagonal lines as if parts of triangles were visible, these are all black. The light is somehow flickering very fast, but not getting darker or brighter.

    The half ring continued to grow larger, then the designs at the top started rotating to the left as the bottom designs started rotating to the right, then the designs in the middle started undulating. The entire ring started to turn clockwise very slowly.

    I was very concerned, to say the least. I could tell it had to do with my vision as the half ring remained in my peripheral vision when I moved my eyes. I found online a description that might explain what I was seeing. It is called ophthalmic migraine. The ring finally drifted out of my vision after about 15 minutes, changing the entire time. When I was reading online I noticed the the letters under the "ring" were not visible at all.

    It was absolutely fascinating.

    Has anyone here experienced one of these or know about them?

    Here is the explanation: "Ophthalmic migraine is quite common. Patients usually experience visual symptoms of seeing bright zig-zag type lines in their central or peripheral (side) vision. These bright lines may have associated flashing light sensations and sometimes can interfere with vision. There are many variations of symptoms. These symptoms usually resolve spontaneously after several minutes but usually less than one hour. Often, rest in a darkened room can be helpful during a migraine attack. Medical treatment is usually not necessary."

    http://eugeneeyecare.com/conditions/Ophthalmic_Migraine.html
     
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  3. Apr 16, 2005 #2

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    Also, "ocular migraine:" my first had me at the eye doctor's in five minutes thinking detached retina. It's mother nature's way of telling you you're very tired and need more sleep. Genuine migraine sufferers call it "the aura," and can sometimes cut off the development of the full-blown migraine given the few minutes warning the ocular/opthalmic effect gives them. Consider yourself fortunate so long as it goes no further --- don't even try reading --- all you'll do is frustrate yourself and aggravate the condition --- take a nap, then get back to what you were doing.
     
  4. Apr 16, 2005 #3

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    You hit the nail on the head there, I am suffering from severe chronic fatigue and lack of sleep. :cry:

    All kinds of scary thoughts entered my mind at first, then I calmed down when I realized what it probably was. I've never had a migraine, and these are apparently painless.
     
  5. Apr 16, 2005 #4

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    Okay, okay! I'm sorry! I'll put the doggie suit away for a few nights. :frown:
     
  6. Apr 16, 2005 #5
    wow that would of scared me to death! I would consider a trip to the doc's just to be on the safe side. High blood pressure can also cause these effects.
     
  7. Apr 16, 2005 #6

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    Maybe she's just been looking at too many smilies. :approve: Like I said about avatar #3--you look like you're working too hard. I hope I'm not being too much of a pain in...other areas. :rolleyes: Go get one of your cuddle cats and get some sleep (definitely not anything in a dog costume). :surprised And if you don't feel better, you may want to make a doctor appointment.
     
  8. Apr 16, 2005 #7

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    I am under too much stress. :frown:

    I'm sure my blood pressure is up.

    And I'm getting old. :cry:
     
  9. Apr 16, 2005 #8

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    Sure... :grumpy: Just when I start making serious plans to open a puppy farm, she gets a headache... :tongue:
     
  10. Apr 16, 2005 #9

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    Nonsense, my dear. You're weeks younger than me.
     
  11. Apr 16, 2005 #10

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    Just as a side note, when I was taking anthropology this summer we studied about the trancing rituals and experiences of shamans across different cultures. The first stage of a trance that is typically reported is the experience of "entoptic phenomena" which I believe to be a kind of self-induced migraine, but I've never been able to find anymore infomation on this.

    They report luminous shapes and incandescent patterns very much like what you described. I found Bystander's post very interesting because one of the things that some shamans will do to prepare for a trancing ceremony is to deprive themselves of sleep.

    Evo, perhaps you are becoming the PF shaman? :smile:

    (Lemme know - I need a money spell.)
     
  12. Apr 16, 2005 #11

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    It's amazing what our bodies and mind are capable of. According to the link I gave "The cause is due to a temporary spasm in the blood vessels behind the eye called "vasospasm" similar to a spasm or cramp that you may have once experienced in one of your leg muscles (Charlie-Horse)." I guess it would not be that hard to induce? Or maybe shamans were more prone to this sort of thing?

    I have had a really strong urge to whirl a dead chicken over my head lately. How much money do you want? :tongue2:
     
  13. Apr 16, 2005 #12

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    I didn't think about that. Could be hereditary. Shamans' kids do tend to go into the family business in many cultures.
    LOL!! :rofl:
     
  14. Apr 16, 2005 #13

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    Charlie-horse? Hmm...maybe a vitamin deficiency...possible sleep apnea--do you have allergies?

    I have had a really strong urge to whirl a dead chicken over my head lately. How much money do you want? :tongue2:[/QUOTE]A change in environment may be helpful--start planning some time off. Oh yeh, dirty martinis...mmmmm--you can come here, but it is getting friggin' hot already--geez! Oh yeh, and alcohol contributes to sleep apnea. :grumpy: Seriously, looking at a monitor too much could be bothering you. I'll be the moderator for awhile--oh wouldn't that be scary! :surprised
     
  15. Apr 17, 2005 #14

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    I lack vitamins and I have allergies, and possible sleep apnea.

    Ok,you can be moderator, and I will just sleep, do housework, yardwork, cook and relax. :smile:
     
  16. Apr 17, 2005 #15

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    I don't know if this is standard, or just an individual thing, but my mother got really severe leg cramps at night. What cured them almost instantly was a dose of fast-acting calcium supplement. You are (and I seriously mean no offense by it) getting around the age where that can be a critical shortage. As for the apnea, your Earth-shattering <snorting> could very well be a result of that. :biggrin:
     
  17. Apr 17, 2005 #16

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    Would you mind sharing those thoughts? Sorry if that's a strange or inappropriate question, and I understand if you don't want to answer it... I'm just interested in the psychology of that sort of situation. Also, have you ever experienced any sort of major visual hallucination before this?
     
  18. Apr 17, 2005 #17

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    My first thought was where did you get the mushrooms you were cooking with. :bugeye:

    You should take the other's advice and see a doctor soon. You'll certainly want to rule out a detaching retina...that can cause all sorts of weird flashes that you'll see, and they can repair it before it becomes fully detached, but not after (AFAIK). Not something worth taking a wait and see approach to.

    It would seem rather odd for you to get the visual halo thing of a migraine and not get a migraine to go with it. I'm not sure though. But if this is a prelude of migraines to come, again, it's time for a check-up; make sure your blood pressure is okay and all that good stuff.
     
  19. Apr 17, 2005 #18

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    As I suspected. We need to get you on a vitamin regimen. Then you may want to put an air filter in you bedroom, maybe a prescription for a nasal spray and/or something like Singulair that you can take in the evening to help you breath. As for the stress, well you will need to reflect on this. I am a neat/tidy person who also likes to cook, and have minimal yardwork, but if you wanna help out, the guest bedroom and bath are yours--oh, and the pool is getting warm--it's great to float about with some tunes playing on the boombox. I'll moderate, but only if you are available for guidance. The stress is already going away, huh? :smile: Did I mention some guys I could introduce you to?
     
  20. Apr 17, 2005 #19

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    Pool? Tunes? Warm? Floating? Guys?
    *shoves Evo back to her moderator control panel* I'm on the way SOS! :biggrin:
     
  21. Apr 17, 2005 #20

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    Excellent--I have a pretty nice sofa too (with a half bath downstairs), and then when it gets too hot, let's go with MIH to Oregon to visit Ivan & Tsu and crew! Woohooo! Don't worry--I won't make you help process olives. The olives are past the point already this season... About the guys... Do they need to be smart too? :rofl:
     
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