Opinions about these textbooks for vibrations and waves

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the evaluation of various textbooks for a university-level course on Vibrations and Waves. Participants share their opinions on the recommended texts, specifically French's "Vibrations and Waves" and Pain's "The Physics of Vibrations and Waves," as well as potential supplementary materials like Rabinovich's and Kneubühl's works.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concerns about Pain's textbook, citing mixed reviews and a mediocre experience with earlier editions.
  • Others suggest that French's textbook appears to be a better option for self-study, though they acknowledge limited personal experience with it.
  • Online resources are recommended as alternatives for learning at a similar level, including links to Harvard resources and a course from the University of Texas.
  • One participant mentions that their previous course focused on electromagnetic waves and found Bekefi and Barrett's book to be excellent, but notes it may not be relevant if the current course does not emphasize that area.
  • Regarding Rabinovich's and Kneubühl's books, some participants indicate that these texts are more advanced and may not be suitable for students whose courses are based on French and Pain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Pain's textbook has received mixed reviews and that French may be a better choice for self-study. However, there is no consensus on the suitability of Rabinovich's and Kneubühl's books, with some suggesting they are too advanced for the intended audience.

Contextual Notes

Participants' evaluations are based on personal experiences with earlier editions of the textbooks and online resources, which may not reflect the current editions or the specific course content. The discussion does not resolve the effectiveness of the recommended materials for the course.

Baal Hadad
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Hi.

I am going to enter uni this October as a first year physics major.One of the first courses I will take is Vibrations and Waves,and the recommended materials are as below:

French,Vibrations and Waves
Pain,The Physics of Vibrations and Waves, 6th Edition

According to Amazon's review,there are some complaints about Pain's textbook.

I am trying to have some self study before entering uni.So,is French better than Pain for self study?

And also will Rabinovich's "Oscillations and Waves: In Linear and Nonlinear Systems" and Kneubühl's "Oscillations and Waves" become good supplements for the module?

Thanks.
 
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I used an earlier edition of Pain for a part of a physics class 30 years ago, and thought it wasn't great or horrible. It was mediocre. I've flipped through French before and it looked better than Pain, but I don't have a lot of experience with it.

Some online resources at about the same level are
https://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~hgeorgi/new.htm
https://scholar.harvard.edu/david-morin/waves
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/315/315.html

When I took such a course it was mostly about electromagnetic waves, and the primary book was Bekefi and Barrett
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0262520478/?tag=pfamazon01-20
which I thought was excellent, but if your course doesn't emphasize electromagnetic waves very much then you should skip it. As a warning, it looks like it was typeset with an old-fashioned typewriter.

Jason
 
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jasonRF said:
I used an earlier edition of Pain for a part of a physics class 30 years ago, and thought it wasn't great or horrible. It was mediocre. I've flipped through French before and it looked better than Pain, but I don't have a lot of experience with it.

Some online resources at about the same level are
https://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~hgeorgi/new.htm
https://scholar.harvard.edu/david-morin/waves
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/315/315.html

When I took such a course it was mostly about electromagnetic waves, and the primary book was Bekefi and Barrett
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0262520478/?tag=pfamazon01-20
which I thought was excellent, but if your course doesn't emphasize electromagnetic waves very much then you should skip it. As a warning, it looks like it was typeset with an old-fashioned typewriter.

Jason
Thanks for your advice. I think that I will go for French.Besides,do you have any experience for the two books above(Kneubühl and Rabinovich)?
 
I looked at both on amazon. They are both more advanced - more suitable for advanced undergraduate or perhaps even graduate students. If your course is based on French and Pain then I think those books will not be helpful.
Jason
 
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jasonRF said:
I looked at both on amazon. They are both more advanced - more suitable for advanced undergraduate or perhaps even graduate students. If your course is based on French and Pain then I think those books will not be helpful.
Jason
Thanks. Maybe that's why they aren't as popular as popular textbooks such as French or Pain.
 

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