Can It Be Proven That Optics Field Amplitudes Satisfy Negative Frequencies?

In summary, the conversation is about the property of field amplitudes in quantum optics, specifically the fact that E(-w) = E*(w). The speakers question how this can be proven, but then conclude that it is a trivial property and not specific to quantum cases. They also discuss different notations for the property and reference a book on nonlinear optics for further explanation.
  • #1
Niles
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Hi

In (quantum) optics, many authors state that the field amplitudes satisfy

[tex]
E\left( { - \omega } \right) = E^* \left( \omega \right)
[/tex]

But how is it that one can prove that this is correct? I have never seen any book do this,
 
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  • #2
Isn't this trivial and not specific to quantum cases anyways? Suppose you have an oscillating E-field (of course, the same works for the B-field component),
[tex]E(\vec{r},\omega,t)=E_0(\vec{r},t)e^{-i \omega t}[/tex]

Then the property you mention is trivial.
 
  • #3
You might be right; it probably isn't related to quantum cases. Here is how I have understood it: We can generally write

[tex]
E\left( {r,t} \right) = \sum\limits_{n > 0} {\left( {E\left( r \right)e^{ - i\omega t} + c.c.} \right) = \sum\limits_{n,\,\,all} {E\left( \omega \right)e^{ - i\omega t} } }
[/tex]

The last equality follows it we define

[tex]
\begin{array}{l}
E\left( r \right) \equiv E\left( \omega \right) \\
E\left( \omega \right)^* = E\left( { - \omega } \right) \\
\end{array}
[/tex]

But these are just definitions. So I don't see how we can really prove that [itex]

E\left( { - \omega } \right) = E^* \left( \omega \right)

[/itex]Niles.
 
  • #5
Ok, it's pretty obvious now. Thanks.
 

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