Organic: How is nucleophilic addition to a carbonyl carbon possible?

In summary, in an SN2 reaction, hydroxide cannot act as a leaving group no matter how strong the nucleophile is. However, in the process of nucleophilic addition to a carbonyl compound, an intermediate with a R-O- bond is formed. This bond resembles a leaving group, but it is still attached to the molecule. The key difference between these two reactions is that SN2 involves a pair of SP3 electrons while the addition to a carbonyl involves a pair of P orbital electrons being shifted. This results in the intermediate having its new electron pair in an SP3 orbital. However, lone pair orbitals can be unpredictable. OH- is not a suitable substitution group for SN3 or nucleophilic addition
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We all know that hydroxide will never be a leaving group in an SN2 reaction, no matter how strong the nucleophile. Yet an intermediate containing R-O- is created when a nucleophile adds to a carbonyl compound. It looks sort of like a leaving group, but it's still attatched to the molecule.

What is the apparently huge difference between these two reactions that allows this to happen? The only difference I can see is that SN2 involves a pair of SP3 electrons and the addition to a carbonyl involves a pair of P orbital electrons being shifted. By VSEPR the intermediate has its new electron pair in an SP3 orbital, but I know lone pair orbitals can be unpredictable.
 
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OH- is not a good substitution group for either SN3 or nucleophilic addition eliminations - however species of RO- can become involved in transesterifications which is a type of nucleophilic addition eliminations. I'm not quite certain what your question is exactly.
 
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well somebody else gave me an explanation that was satisfactory. A carbonyl carbon has much more partial positive charge because it loses electron density to oxygen through resonance, whereas a tetrahedral carbon can only lose electron density inductively which is generally a weaker force.
 
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OH- can be a leaving group if a stronger base such as NH3 attacks the carbonyl compound under acidic conditions.
 
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The carbonyl carbon is electrophilic due to induction. The oxygens pull electron density away from this carbon, making it more vulnerable to nucleophilic attack. The stability of the tetrahedral intermediate is less relevant, as this is what you get after the initial kinetic reaction of negative and positive sites.
 

1. How does a nucleophile attack a carbonyl carbon?

In nucleophilic addition, a nucleophile attacks the carbonyl carbon by donating a pair of electrons to the partially positive carbon atom. This creates a tetrahedral intermediate, which then undergoes a series of steps to form a new molecule.

2. What type of bond is formed during nucleophilic addition?

During nucleophilic addition, a new bond is formed between the nucleophile and the carbonyl carbon. This bond is known as a covalent bond, where the electrons are shared between the two atoms.

3. What determines the reactivity of a carbonyl carbon in nucleophilic addition?

The reactivity of a carbonyl carbon in nucleophilic addition is largely determined by the electronegativity of the atoms attached to it. The more electronegative the atoms, the more polarized the carbonyl carbon becomes, making it more susceptible to nucleophilic attack.

4. Why is the carbonyl carbon considered electrophilic?

The carbonyl carbon is considered electrophilic because it has a partial positive charge due to the high electronegativity of the oxygen atom. This makes it an attractive site for nucleophilic attack, as the nucleophile can donate its electron density to the partially positive carbon atom.

5. What are some examples of nucleophilic addition to a carbonyl carbon?

Some common examples of nucleophilic addition to a carbonyl carbon include the addition of a Grignard reagent to a carbonyl compound to form an alcohol, the addition of an amine to a carbonyl compound to form an amide, and the addition of a hydride ion to a carbonyl compound to form an alcohol.

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