Our President is delusional, does that bother anyone?

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God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers

Who will be the first one to ask me, "how do you know he doesn't talk to god?" So here are the possibilities, either Bush actually does have casual conversations with God, or he uses God as a political tactic, or he is delusional. I should have started a poll.

Oh, and i know this isn't the first report of god delegating to gw, but it inspires the same disappointment now as it did then.
 

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Yes, your president is delusional, as is our Prime Minister.

Yeah, I'm sure God would tell Bush to go invade Iraq and kill thousands of innocents and children doing so!

How many people need to die for Bush to stop? His war on terror causes more terror!
 
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God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers

Who will be the first one to ask me, "how do you know he doesn't talk to god?" So here are the possibilities, either Bush actually does have casual conversations with God, or he uses God as a political tactic, or he is delusional. I should have started a poll.

Oh, and i know this isn't the first report of god delegating to gw, but it inspires the same disappointment now as it did then.
From the link:

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
Since this is corroborated by more than one person, I'll assume it is true that Bush said these things (or something close to it). That there is no reference to "fighting terrorists" in Iraq, but rather to "end tyranny" we can deduce that Bush is at least a lier--if not delusional. Bush did not give a s**t about a Palestinian state until Arafat died and there seemed to be a chance for democracy per the neocon agenda. I would say Bush was being an opportunist--if not delusional. If he truly wanted security for Israel and peace in the Middle East I find his war mongering threats to be an odd approach. His talks with God may be just to appeal to the Rapture people, which is almost more frightening to me. So either he is a lier, an opportunist, a war monger, and cult leader OR he is delusional.
 
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kcballer21 said:
either Bush actually does have casual conversations with God, or he uses God as a political tactic, or he is delusional.
Well, the first option we can surely rule out. The second is not likely unless he's a very good actor (anyway, what would he gain by appearing delusional?). Left is only the third alternative...
 
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Yeah, it bothers me.
 
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I am suddenly reminded of a scene from the movie Real Genius.
Either that or, well.. David Koresh said he talked to god too. :uhh:
 
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Bush did not [care] about a Palestinian state until Arafat died and there seemed to be a chance for democracy per the neocon agenda.
(edited for content :grumpy:)

I thought the general consensus was that there wasn't hope for any sort of stability in the region as long as Arafat was in power and Israel existed.
 
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Hurkyl said:
I thought the general consensus was that there wasn't hope for any sort of stability in the region as long as Arafat was in power and Israel existed.
:confused: Maybe in the states it is... was...
 
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"God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers"

Actually it was Dick Cheney. :smile:
 
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edward said:
"God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers"

Actually it was Dick Cheney. :smile:
And dad... This was personal and Bush even admitted so when he said, ~"and, well, he [Saddam] did try to kill my dad".
 
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Published on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer
by Helen Thomas:
Bush ignored the volatile Middle East dispute when he first came into the presidency. After 9/11, he called for a two-state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

But it was half-hearted at best, and appeared to be a sop to halt the al-Qaida recruitment of Palestinians who were losing hope of independence.

Every once in a while Bush proudly mentions that he is the only president who has endorsed a two-state solution -- Palestine and Israel -- but on his watch the United States has done nothing. It is too busy trying to occupy Iraq.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1116-26.htm [Broken]

True that Bush first publicly called for a Palestinian state in October 2001, however in addition to the quote above:
Clinton already laid the groundwork in the last months of his presidency by trying to achieve a peace deal that would have resulted in a Palestinian state.
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Clinton outlined the possible concessions each side could make, known today as the "Clinton parameters." For Palestinians, he said, a peace deal would mean "an independent and sovereign state with al Quds [East Jerusalem] as its capital, recognized by all. And for America, it means that we could have new flags flying over new embassies in both these capitals."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/04/AR2005100401410.html
 
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So either he is a lier, an opportunist, a war monger, and cult leader OR he is delusional.
I'm going to have to vote for all of the above.

Not only am I bothered by it, but I am sick to my stomach, sick at heart and scared to death of what he might do next.
 
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I thought the general consensus was that there wasn't hope for any sort of stability in the region as long as Arafat was in power and Israel existed.
With the neo-cons maybe, but not outside that small (and gettings smaller) sphere of influence
 
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With the neo-cons maybe, but not outside that small (and gettings smaller) sphere of influence
Oddly, I seem to recal having this impression (that people thought there was little hope for peace while Arafat was in power) long before I ever heard the word "neo-con".
 
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Must be the reason why they gave him the nobel peace price then, if 'general concensus' was he was holding up the peace progress in the ME??
 
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your all forgeting the fact that god would not ask bush to go kill thousands (possibly millions) of INNOCENT IRAQIS!

its a known fact that HOSPITALS and other civic buildings were deliberatley bombed! how is this "ending tyranny"???
 
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kcballer21 said:
God told me to invade Iraq, Bush tells Palestinian ministers

Who will be the first one to ask me, "how do you know he doesn't talk to god?" So here are the possibilities, either Bush actually does have casual conversations with God,
Well, even if he did in the past, there seems to be noise on the line now :biggrin:
 
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The Blues Brothers were on a mission from gahd too - as delusions go (if this even qualifies), its a lot thinner than the typical democratic delusions we've discussed before.

Regarding Arafat - it was the general consensus among conservatives, at the very least, that Arafat was an obstruction. The Nobel Peace Prize is a hippie(or the Sweedish equivalent) back-slapping convention with no real meaning, and Arafat and Carter made good bedfellows. Winning the prize has no real meaning, though.
 
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Yeah, the Nobel peace prize means nothing. So you're in the company of Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King and Amnesty International. So what? They were just a bunch of goddam hippies!
 
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The Blues Brothers were on a mission from gahd too - as delusions go (if this even qualifies), its a lot thinner than the typical democratic delusions we've discussed before.

Regarding Arafat - it was the general consensus among conservatives, at the very least, that Arafat was an obstruction. The Nobel Peace Prize is a hippie(or the Sweedish equivalent) back-slapping convention with no real meaning, and Arafat and Carter made good bedfellows. Winning the prize has no real meaning, though.
Russ has spoken!

Mother Teresa, what a silly hippy...
 
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russ_watters said:
The Blues Brothers were on a mission from gahd too - as delusions go (if this even qualifies), its a lot thinner than the typical democratic delusions we've discussed before.

Regarding Arafat - it was the general consensus among conservatives, at the very least, that Arafat was an obstruction. The Nobel Peace Prize is a hippie(or the Sweedish equivalent) back-slapping convention with no real meaning, and Arafat and Carter made good bedfellows. Winning the prize has no real meaning, though.
And of course the conservative consensus is all that matters.

This is the same shove it down your throat approach by conservatives that has so divided this country. Their staunch belief that they, and only they know what is right.

I call it the absolutist trap. When you believe in absolutes, you blind yourself to other possibilities.
 
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The Blues Brothers were on a mission from gahd too - as delusions go (if this even qualifies), its a lot thinner than the typical democratic delusions we've discussed before.

Regarding Arafat - it was the general consensus among conservatives, at the very least, that Arafat was an obstruction. The Nobel Peace Prize is a hippie(or the Sweedish equivalent) back-slapping convention with no real meaning, and Arafat and Carter made good bedfellows. Winning the prize has no real meaning, though.
what could be thinner? and by the way, i don't categorize this as a republican delusion, it is simply a delusion, lots of delusional people have them. i only worry about what god will tell him to do next.

by the way, the white house is denying that bush said these things. :uhh:
 
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It does sound a little bin Ladenesque, doesn't it.
 
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russ_watters said:
The Blues Brothers were on a mission from gahd too - as delusions go (if this even qualifies), its a lot thinner than the typical democratic delusions we've discussed before.

The Blues Brothers saved an orphanage from foreclosure.

Bush is massacreing hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings for fun and profit.
 
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[SCENE] Dick Cheney sneakily tip-toes through the Oval Office and hides quietly behind the curtains. President Bush enters momnets later [/SCENE]

Cheney: George, this is the Lord speaking. I have a task for you...

Can someone get this on SNL ?
 

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