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  1. Dec 13, 2009 #1
    So i feel that as engineers it is our responsibility to help anyone and everyone. This is a challenge i am presenting to you all and that challenge is to create things that would benefit third world countries. What i am talking about are things like filtration systems that can be cheaply made or tools to help improve their farming. I'm not looking for us to create items for them to depend on but for items to help them grow and help themselves. Our society tosses lots of money at problems and that needs to stop. handing them food and water wont help them. Helping them filter their own water and grow their own food will make a world of difference though.
     
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  3. Dec 13, 2009 #2

    brewnog

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    Nice ideals, but what's your point?
     
  4. Dec 13, 2009 #3
    my point i think was simple to understand. we need to all design and innovate to help those that need help. we need product designs.
     
  5. Dec 13, 2009 #4

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    no i wasnt but that is perfect thank you. i think we should all get involved in this orginization.
     
  7. Dec 13, 2009 #6

    FredGarvin

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    I think you should keep your thoughts to yourself.
     
  8. Dec 13, 2009 #7
    why is there such hostility from members of this forum? i have posted on this forum for a few months now and every time i post i get hostility. if this is how you all treat people who have ideas then i feel sorry for you all.
     
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  9. Dec 13, 2009 #8

    Danger

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    I believe that the issue is not hostility toward your ideals, but rather toward your assertion that we should all share them.
     
  10. Dec 13, 2009 #9

    FredGarvin

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    No, I really enjoy some new comer start threads telling me what I need to do and where my selfless priorities should be. My wife is the only one that gets to do that. Why don't you take your sensitive self to the Oprah forum and have a good group cry over there.
     
  11. Dec 14, 2009 #10

    Ranger Mike

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    Can't we all just get along!​
     

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  12. Dec 14, 2009 #11

    FredGarvin

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    You didn't say that while holding back the tears. Come on. Make it worth the while!
     
  13. Dec 14, 2009 #12

    Q_Goest

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    I've noticed on rare occasions that some people who's native language isn't English may be prone to phrase things in a way that is demeaning, commanding or otherwise inappropriate and provocative. It could be you don't even realize how to properly phrase things in English.

    Regardless, the way you phrased the OP is certainly inappropriate and can even be interpreted as being provacative or downright insulting.
     
  14. Dec 14, 2009 #13

    Mech_Engineer

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    You need to replace all of your "I feel's" and "I think's" with something more fitting to the logical mind of an engineer. Just because you feel it, doesn't make it right.

    You can't use your claim "i feel that as engineers it is our responsibility to help anyone and everyone" as justification to claim "i think we should all get involved in this [engineer's without borders] orginization." Where do you get your belief that all engineers have a responsibility to help anyone and everyone? There are other priorities in the world too.

    I'm with Fred, quit getting all touchy-feely on us.
     
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  15. Dec 14, 2009 #14

    Ranger Mike

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    FredGarvin

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    You guys speak so much betterer than I do.
     
  17. Dec 14, 2009 #16

    and I don't even listen to her
    lol

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  18. Dec 14, 2009 #17

    minger

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    I feel it our responsibility to start growing hops as individuals so my beer prices stop going up!
     
  19. Dec 14, 2009 #18
    no, you miss the point, you need to engineer a faster hop (maybe a hopity hop), and faster beer process
    even better, a beer replicator

    dr
     
  20. Dec 14, 2009 #19

    brewnog

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    I don't listen to Fred's wife either. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong.

    Anyway, see you all at The Brewery.
     
  21. Dec 14, 2009 #20

    minger

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    Hey ales don't take long at all! It's those damn popular light lagers that take forever to make.
     
  22. Dec 14, 2009 #21

    Astronuc

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    It's been done already.

    In addition to MIH's post about Engineers Without Borders, there are numerous humanitarian programs sponsored by governments and NGOs.

    For example - http://www.clearwaterinitiative.org/ [Broken] (NGO)

    US Program
    http://webapps01.un.org/dsd/partnerships/public/partnerships/1550.html
    http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/environment/water/wwf3.factsheets/wawi_2006.pdf [Broken]
    http://www.ehproject.org/PDF/Activity_Reports/AR 124 WAWI M&E.pdf

    http://ciifad.cornell.edu/activities/initiatives/wawi/index.cfm [Broken]

    Australian Program
    http://www.wateraid.org/

    Asia-Pacific Water Forum
    http://www.apwf.org/

    World Water Council
    http://www.worldwatercouncil.org/

    Just a few examples. Folks are working on it.

    Please feel free to get involved.
     
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  23. Dec 14, 2009 #22

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    Since you didn't say anything about the nuts and bolts of how you would intend this to work, I'll just assume that you think engineers should moonlight, providing pro bono services or inventing things and then releasing them into the public domain....

    Engineers already tend to be underpaid relative to their education level, so I think it is unreasonable to expect them to do something for nothing. If someone wants to give their expertise as a form of charity, fine, but it most certainly can't be considered a responsibility.
    You shouldn't be surprised that nebulous challenges that require donation of time/money would be met with hostility. I don't think you'd like it if I told you you need to donate your car to charity, right now.

    People don't like being told what to do - especially if it costs them time/money and comes with an attitude of self righteousness.
     
  24. Dec 15, 2009 #23
    I believe in survival of the fittest.
     
  25. Dec 15, 2009 #24

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    I believe we all should work together in getting all the energy we can from this planet to help those who can benefit from it the most.

    Toilet paper industry, Lumber companies, chain saw manufacturers, pencil makers and heat to be used in , yes, boys and girls......BREWING BEER

    All we are sayyyyyinnggg is give Piece a chance!
     

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  26. Dec 15, 2009 #25

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    All we are saying.....is give beer a chance!
     
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