Overall Heat Transfer Coefficient (Exhaust Gas to Refrigerant)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around estimating the overall heat transfer coefficient ("U") for a heat exchanger in a gas engine waste heat recovery system using an organic Rankine cycle. Participants explore the factors influencing "U" and seek guidance on how to accurately determine this value for exhaust gas and refrigerants.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Ronan, is modeling a heat recovery system and is unsure about the accuracy of assuming a "U" value of ~400 W/m².K for the heat exchanger.
  • Another participant clarifies that "U" is a property of the heat exchanger material and geometry, not solely a characteristic of the fluids involved.
  • Ronan expresses confusion regarding the tables he found that include both hot and cold fluids with corresponding "U" values.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the material and physical layout of the heat exchanger significantly influence the overall heat transfer coefficient.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that "U" is influenced by the heat exchanger's material and design, but there is no consensus on how to obtain a specific value for the given scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the determination of "U" may depend on various factors, including the specific materials used and the configuration of the heat exchanger, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals involved in thermal engineering, heat exchanger design, or those working on waste heat recovery systems.

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Hi there,

I am doing a project modelling and simulating a gas engine waste heat recovery system using an organic rankine cycle.
As part of this project I would like to size the surface area of a heat exchanger (if only roughly). I have found the appropriate formula using Q = U.A.LMTD and all the variables are fine and I believe I am calculating correctly but I'm assuming an overall heat transfer coefficient ("U") of ~400 W/m^2.K. I have no idea if this is accurate
The two fluids exchanging heat are an exhaust gas (heat source) and various refrigerants (R134a, R245fa), I was hoping someone might be able to suggest an accurate "U" for these fluids and if possible something to reference.
I don't have a fantastic knowledge of heat exchangers by any means, do I assume the heat exchange surface to be made from metal and is it relevant whether i specify plate or shell and tube etc?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks advance for your time.

Ronan
 
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The U in heat transfer is a property of the material used to fabricate the heat exchanger and the geometry of the unit. It is not a physical property of the fluids passing thru the unit.
 
oh ok thank you, I was confused because any information I have searched for contained tables with both the hot and the cold liquid for example: gas to water and a corresponding "U" value...
Would you know how to obtain a relatively accurate value for my predicament or an educated guess perhaps?
Thanks again for your post
 
It depends on the material used to construct the heat exchanger and the physical layout of the heat exchanger itself.
 

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