locking a thread is just as overeactive as some of the insulting terms used in it, which i notice people seem to copy from each other. First of all ..who is going to be mislead ? anybody reading the thread Convergent matrice=divergent constant ? is going to see it for what it is. A math beginner with a strong conceptual agenda to figure out how to approach realising that. Why be ashamed of a google listing. Anyone reading the thread would also see it for what it was ? if it was me that caused all the problems, what do you have to ashamed about ? You would think a biologist taking a strong and creative approach to solving a specific problem would be one aspect for which this forum is suited for. i did get the feeling myself through the last post i wrote to matt grime, i ought to go off on my own. The diatribe was getting kind of half beneficial, and half pointless, I mean i'm reading books and trying to write some real math, so i have to thank all repliers for that. my gripe about that you should not be using terms like crackpot and to some degree nonsense. Thats was lead to half my problems with the thread. and also in the way other decent posters here are treated. You then lock and finish by repeating the terms. I notice you deleted the post when i stuck up for another very decent poster who i thought was getting similiar bad treatment. Will you even allow this to be posted ? If you are a mod, and want a forum with a good atmosphere, controlling your own experts, by private message would be the better strategy. Its your loss, locking threads. Just looks very bad. I've now begun the process to thrash out the structure, if not the solution for the required equation. Which also might answers the question why the other root of phi is not commonly used. The whole idea was. 1 : present a rough concept (done) 2 : learn about correct definitions for that (done) 3 : create a rough structure which matches the problem (done, but prevented from posting) 4 : work on correct details for the components of the equation. 5: see if these are compatible with the structure. 6: start testing the equation itself. leave out the insults, and ill leave out the attitude. Crackpot is a personal insult, as its a negative reference to someones mental state. I dont see how you can think thats not personal. A bit of neuroscience for you. Just using insulting terms like that, activates the same brain regions as if someone actually came up and shoved you round physically.