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Oversensitivity

  1. Aug 14, 2004 #1

    Gza

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    I was on snopes and came across this article:

    http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cool.htm


    This seems to me to be "digging" for symbolism, and unfair in general. I was just wondering what everyone else thought.
     
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  3. Aug 14, 2004 #2

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    I think that any representation that includes two long rectangles standing vertically, in close proximity to a suspended, long cylinder with a flat cross member, should be banned forever!!! :biggrin:

    Edit: Of course, if the imagery provokes thoughts of 911 then it probably wouldn't create a positive feeling about the advertised product. In that light I can see why they pulled the ad.
     
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  4. Aug 14, 2004 #3
    I should have thought the symbolism was obvious, if not outrageous. But its use does call into question the notion of advertisers using subtle (or subliminal) symbolism to promote products, as the symbolism here would certainly backfire, unless the posters were intended to promote sales in the Afghan mountains.
     
  5. Aug 14, 2004 #4

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    Two cups of slushies sitting in the grass surrounded by butterflies. Yep, first thing I thought of was 9/11. Obviously the butterflies represent the airplanes!! (I'm joking). Anyone seeing the World Trade Towers in this poster has a problem.
     
  6. Aug 14, 2004 #5
    Thank you Evo. I'm glad at least some people can be sensible about this sort of thing. You can assign a meaning to anything (cfr. the succes of psychoanalysis). This doesn't mean you should.
     
  7. Aug 16, 2004 #6
    Really? What kind of problem?
     
  8. Aug 16, 2004 #7

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    They're way too imaginative. I'm not talking about someone being told it represents 9/11 and them thinking, well there are two main items in the picture. I'm talking about someone seeing it without hearing about this. I showed this to several people and even prodded them asking if it reminds them of any particular event. No one made the connection.

    It doesn't even make any sense. Why would a coffee shop think that making fun of the World Trade Towers event make people want to drink one of their new fruit drinks? The answer is, this had nothing to do with that event.

    So, a poster of two children standing together mocks 9/11? A picture of two trees side by side? Two cups of fruit drinks?

    Honestly, if you had seen that poster without knowing what some people thought they were seeing, would you have made any connection?
     
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  9. Aug 16, 2004 #8
    Impossible to say, but I do have a good imagination.

    I agree that any reference to the 9/11 tragedy must have been unintentional on the basis that Starbucks is a US business. Perhaps the ad was okayed before 9/11? Otherwise I am amazed that the advertising bods didn't see this complaint coming. After all, I have been led to believe that they use subtle symbolism in advertising as a matter of routine, something like an inkblot where most people will see pretty much the same thing there e.g a butterfly, although we all know its just an inkblot. The only reason that I can see that people wouldn't read more into the Starbucks poster is that its just too painful to acknowledge. In fact I feel like apologising for talking about it in what seems like a trivialising context. In fact I'd rather not discuss it further myself, out of respect.
     
  10. Aug 16, 2004 #9
    There is no reference to 9/11 inherent in that poster. If someone had presented it to me saying they wanted it to allude to 9/11 I would have said they failed. It takes too much of a cerebral stretch to make any such connection: you have to intellectually abstract the elements to make any such connection work, and precious few people react to visual images that way.
     
  11. Aug 16, 2004 #10
    Notice that at the top of the poster it says "Collapse Into Cool." That kind of struck me as odd. But still its rediculous someone would complain about something so stupid.
     
  12. Aug 16, 2004 #11

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    Or they could have said "Attack your thirst" it's just using marketing buzz words. I guess if they had one more flavor to advertise it wouldn't have been an issue? :wink:

    I just think there are too many people with too much time on their hands looking for problems where there aren't any.
     
  13. Aug 16, 2004 #12
    Uh oh. I just noticed I have a tall plastic cup and a tall container of powdered coffee creamer sitting near each other on my side table here. What should I do?
     
  14. Aug 16, 2004 #13

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    :surprise: Gadzooks man! What are you thinking? Quick, grab one of the containers and move it to another room, otherwise someone will report you for being insensitive!!!

    This has really gotten me to thinking. How many restaurants have you been to that had salt & pepper shakers standing next to each other on a table? How dare they? Don't they know what that means??
     
  15. Aug 18, 2004 #14
    Anyone sure this is actually a real Ad?
     
  16. Aug 18, 2004 #15

    Evo

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    Yes, I checked and it's real.
     
  17. Aug 23, 2004 #16

    Gza

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    Snopes is a site meant to seperate facts from fictional rumors. And plus, if Evo says it's real, your darn skippy it has to be real. :biggrin:
     
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