Help with Paradoxical Groups: Vectors, Finite Groups, F3 & Z

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In summary, we discussed the concept of paradoxical groups and how to find a unique C such that Cv1=w1 and Cv2=w2 given vectors v1,v2 in R2 and w1,w2 in R2. We also explored the idea of a finite group not being very paradoxical and whether F3 and Z are paradoxical or not. The conversation also touched on the definition of paradoxical and the requirement for G to act on a set for a group to be paradoxical.
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Hi, I need some serious help in paradoxical groups!

1) Given vectors v1,v2 in R2 and w1,w2 in R2 (none lieing on a line thru the origin), show that you can find a unique C such that Cv1=w1 and Cv2=w2.

2) Show that a finite group is not very paradoxical.

3) Is F3 paradoxical? Is Z?


THANKS!
 
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would you care to define paradoxical?

1 is easy if you pick a basis. , though that is unnecessary, just define a map satisfying such and extend by linaerity to all of R^2 and note that two independent vectors in R^2 are a basis (you mean w1 w2 not lying on the same line, and v1 v2 not lying on the same line).
 
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Def of Paradoxical:

G acts on X, E is subset of X.
E is G-paradoxical if there exists pairwise disjoin sets A1, ... , An, B1,..., Bm inside E and g1,...,gn, h1,...,hm inside G with E=(union)(Ai)=(union)(Bj).

If X is metric space and G acts by isometries, and we have A's, B's, g's, and h's as above, we have G-very paradoxical.
 
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Why didn't you say it was to help you do an assignment in a rush... my interest has dropped off, sorry. YOu might consider that your definition of paradoxical requres G to act on a set (your examples in the question don't) and you have not given a quantification of "not very" for paradoxical.
 

1. What are paradoxical groups?

Paradoxical groups are groups that exhibit seemingly contradictory properties, such as being both infinite and finite, or having elements that are both commutative and non-commutative.

2. What are vectors in the context of paradoxical groups?

Vectors in paradoxical groups refer to mathematical objects that have both magnitude and direction, and can be added or multiplied together according to specific rules.

3. What is the difference between finite and infinite groups?

A finite group has a limited number of elements, while an infinite group has an infinite number of elements. In paradoxical groups, this distinction may not always be clear, as some paradoxical groups can exhibit properties of both finite and infinite groups.

4. What is the significance of F3 and Z in paradoxical groups?

F3 and Z are two specific types of paradoxical groups, with F3 being a non-abelian group and Z being an abelian group. These groups are important in the study of paradoxical groups as they help to illustrate the different properties and paradoxes that can arise in group theory.

5. How are paradoxical groups used in mathematics?

Paradoxical groups are used in mathematics to study and understand the paradoxical properties that can arise in group theory. They have also been used in other areas of mathematics, such as topology and number theory, to provide insights into more complex mathematical concepts.

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