Particles loss of energy

  • Thread starter hagar
  • Start date
  • #1
hagar
Gold Member
50
22
I do not know what area of the forum my question belongs in and I am not sure how to phrase it correctly so it will be understandable but I will do my best.

At some point in time will the energy of all particles deteriorate to nothing (assuming an expanding universe) and if so how will it affect atoms ? With the forces gone will they disintegrate.

Respectfully,
Hagar
 
Last edited:

Answers and Replies

  • #2
PeterDonis
Mentor
Insights Author
2020 Award
34,353
12,596
At some point in time will the energy of all particles deteriorate to nothing

No. The locally measured energies of particles, and objects made of particles (like atoms), are unaffected by the expansion of the universe.
 
  • #3
Drakkith
Staff Emeritus
Science Advisor
21,172
5,030
It's important to understand that objects bound together by the fundamental forces do not undergo expansion. Expansion works on the scales of galaxy clusters and larger because gravity's strength between most galaxy clusters is not enough to counteract expansion. At this scale gravity is the only force at work because the other fundamental forces are either too short ranged or are neutralized by an equal number of charges.
 
  • #4
hagar
Gold Member
50
22
Thank you for the answers.

I see my first error was referring to the expansion of the universe so I will try again. Will atoms always be created or will the universe ever run out of particles to make them.

Respectfully,
Hagar
 
Last edited:
  • #5
Drakkith
Staff Emeritus
Science Advisor
21,172
5,030
Will atoms always be created or will the universe ever run out of particles to make them.

Unknown. If proton decay doesn't occur then the universe will have atoms forever. However, if proton decay does occur, everything will eventually decay into photons and leptons (electron-type particles). But this would occur on a timescale of about 1040 years. For comparison, the current age of the universe is only 1.37x107 years old, so we're talking about a process that would place roughly about a 1000 billion, billion, billion, billion, billion years from now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe#Nucleons_start_to_decay
 
  • #6
hagar
Gold Member
50
22
Thank you !

That is exactly the answer I was searching for !
Also, thanks to both of you for the lesson on expansion. I gained a bit of knowledge from that as well and the link you gave is quite interesting.
With a time frame like that it sounds just like tomorrow. :-)

Respectfully,
Hagar
 
Last edited:
  • #7
Chalnoth
Science Advisor
6,195
447
Thank you for the answers.

I see my first error was referring to the expansion of the universe so I will try again. Will atoms always be created or will the universe ever run out of particles to make them.

Respectfully,
Hagar
The number of atoms generally decreases over time. Stars gradually combine hydrogen and helium into heavier elements, and the hydrogen and helium are not replenished. Some atoms also fall into black holes. This is an inconsequential number to date, but after somewhere between ##10^{40}## and ##10^{65}## years (depending upon the rate of proton decay), black holes will make up most of the matter in our universe. After that, there will be essentially no atoms left.
 
  • #8
Chalnoth
Science Advisor
6,195
447
The Wikipedia article linked by Drakkith above is well worth a read if you're interested in what the universe will look like many trillions of years from now and beyond.
 
  • #9
hagar
Gold Member
50
22
Thank you Chalnoth and yes, I will read it through. I have already read a part of it and I intend to finish. I read a good bit from Wikipedia but there is so much information I do not know where to start so it is always good to ask specific questions from those such as yourselves who can supply an exact link to the item in question.

Respectfully,
Hagar
 

Related Threads on Particles loss of energy

  • Last Post
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
55
Views
11K
Replies
14
Views
240
  • Last Post
Replies
8
Views
908
  • Last Post
Replies
8
Views
981
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • Last Post
2
Replies
34
Views
4K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
Top