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News Pentagon Can't Account for $1trillion in equipment

  1. May 21, 2003 #1
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  3. May 21, 2003 #2
    And we attack Iraq for not accounting for their weapons?
  4. May 21, 2003 #3
    Hahaha. One of many easily made good points. Doesn't take much to turn the USGov into ruins.
  5. May 21, 2003 #4
    I know for a fact that alot of that stuff winds up in people's houses...neat, isn't it?
  6. May 21, 2003 #5
    ZERO - perhaps the path is GOV to EBAY to HOUSES.

    I know someone who has some of it too.
  7. May 21, 2003 #6
    No, its a pretty direct path...someone juggles a few pieces of paper in a supply shop, and they drive home in a Hummer loaded with rifles.

    Think I'm kidding? I worked with a guy who was busted a few weeks before retirement with something like $250,000 worth of stolen military gear in his house. He had gotten away with it for probably about a decade, but he got greedy at the end.
  8. May 21, 2003 #7
    Wow, that's very shocking! Is that news source reliable?
  9. May 21, 2003 #8
    Schwarz et al - Not sure if you're an American. But, heh being one nothing about our government suprises me anymore.

    Missing money, stolen this, no biggie. I'd put nothing past the USA GOV. I mean, I wouldn't put anything past any government. It's just the nature of a government, there is no power above them (except maybe the UN) and so they have no real incentive to do anything in particular.
  10. May 21, 2003 #9
    Check out the link (shortnews rocks!). It posts a link to its source, the San Francisco Gate.
  11. May 22, 2003 #10
    Well, I remember reading a few years ago that the Navy's inventory was so screwed up, it couldn't even be audited...
  12. May 22, 2003 #11
    The one good thing about Australia's military: it's so small that we only have to keep track of three tug-boats and four jeeps.
  13. May 23, 2003 #12
    The Pentagon couldn't "lose" half a hundred planes and all that other big stuff. Their forte since the nuclear age has been to build secret underground bases. They just tell the auditors that they misplaced a bunch of equipment so they don't have to reveal that they have a few more secret bases underground than people suspect.
  14. May 23, 2003 #13
    Don't bet on that, either...what is most likely is that they were double-billed for alot of that equipment, or it somehow was assigned on paper to two different units.
  15. May 23, 2003 #14
    There is always that possibility, but a trillion dollar worth of double billing would blow the Worldcom scam out of the record books, and that doesn't sound too likely. The military is huge and they don't mind throwing money around, but they are also a governing body unto themselves. They don't change with the political parties at elections and I'm sure they have a steady agenda that supercedes civilian prerequistes. They may pay lip service to civilain oversight, but when it comes to building something they want, they're going to do it. And one thing they want is secret bases underground that are command and control centers in case of a thermonuclear attack. They don't divulge all the specifics about such programs to elected civilians because the elected officials could be out of office the very next election and then they'd be walking around civvie street with top secret information.
  16. May 24, 2003 #15


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    Well, yes..but then again when the same politicians are on the board, or their fathers, or wives, or brothers..are on the board or involved in those very same companies that provide the military hardware...their agendas are very probably...the same..eh?
  17. May 25, 2003 #16
    John, isn't that what the NORAD HQ is -- a giant underground 3C complex in case of thermonuclear attack? Prob it's what Zero said, somebody forgot to fill out forms or some crap and now they have to follow the paper trail...
  18. May 25, 2003 #17
    Again, I've seen it happen...someone transfers a vehicle to another unit, but forgets to take it off his own inventory.
  19. May 25, 2003 #18
    Do they? Who is it who looks at the CIA's papers to see if they're honest?

    Would president bush assist, or support a senator (or someone else in the gov) who said the CIA needed to be investigated for "cooking the books"?
  20. May 25, 2003 #19
    just so you all know, "unaccounted" for does not neccesarily mean "missing"... its paperwork people, it doesnt neccesarily mean that they have been stolen or lossed or anything like that...

    and if you people want to put eartags on everything and bottleneck the whole arms race then we might not be here today :smile: just a thought...
  21. May 25, 2003 #20
    Maybe bottlenecking the arms race would have been a good idea? I mean, after you can single-handedly destroy 4 Earths, you should be able to call it quits, right?

    But, yeah, I agree that this is most likely a clerical problem.
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