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People outside the US: We didn't vote for Bush because we are afraid, stupid, etc.

  1. Nov 4, 2004 #1
    Look woman, we aren't stupid. We didn't vote 9/11. We didn't vote Bush to stop gays from Marrying.
    I am so sick of people who do not understand the American political landscape, and who are obviously EXTREMELY confined in their thoughts, trying to come up with one reason on why Bush won. If it is SO amazing to you that he did, then YOU are completely out of touch yourself. Disagreement is one thing, but the continued pawning off that we are stupid, or Bin Laden made us do it, is nothing less than insulting (especially after giving myself more than a few years off my life from stressing out on who to vote for).
     
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    That is exactly what I am screaming!!!!!!!!

    Great post.
     
  4. Nov 4, 2004 #3

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    So, Karl Rove's strategy was completely inconsequential in securing Bush's reelection?
     
  5. Nov 4, 2004 #4
    Note to Europeans, Socialists (Synonmous), and all others who jsut don't get it:

    Of course we're "out of step with the rest of the world." We're not socialist!!! Sorry. It is an irony that socialism has seen more expansion and victory in the post cold war era after the fall of the soviet union than it saw in the hundred years previous. But its not spreading here. Sorry. Get over it.

    We don't agree with you. We like earning our money. We like competition. We like freedom to, not freedom from. We are not succumbing to socialism like the rest of you. So shove it.
     
  6. Nov 4, 2004 #5

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    Nice one! really fighting the stereotype of the ignorant Bush supporter!
     
  7. Nov 4, 2004 #6
    Canada realizes those who voted for Bush made a bad decision. The NDP knows we need to stick up against the U.S and the (gaining in popularity) right-wing beliefs it holds.

    Most Americans did vote for Bush based on fear or lack of intelligence. Voting for Bush based on moral beliefs is due to religion which has a correlation with intelligence. Terrorism was also a major issue that Bush led in popularity on. If I was living in America right now I wouldn't hesistate to argue with a crowd of republicans since Canadians stick up for keeping peace and realize when a government is commiting atrocities of war. Bush actually expects to kill people and achieve long-term peace through violence. Killing people and peace - doesn't anyone see the contradiction?

    Bush won because America is an example of a failing democracy. You voted for the wrong person - you didn't vote Bush in alone, there is no need to rationalize. Some people are suprised at the result of the U.S election because they once had faith in the American people and democracy in the U.S.

    People should also vote based on the candidate as a whole, not one issue. You voted for a leader with business policies that you liked perhaps - but what if he was racist? Would you vote for him then? The prevention of gay-marriage is like an unspoken prejudice that lingers over the unsatisfied gay individuals, gay rights activists, and gay marriage supporters. Injustice does not settle well certain people even if they aren't directly affected.
     
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  8. Nov 4, 2004 #7

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    franznietsche:
    That is precisely the type of idiot comment which shows how brainwashed you are.
     
  9. Nov 4, 2004 #8

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    The problem is that to people outside the US Bush is an extremist and a stupid one at that; it frightens people that such a man should hold the most powerful job in the world.
     
  10. Nov 4, 2004 #9
    Hey arildno, how is it that you bash franznietsche but not Dooga Blackrazor? Or are you in agreement with Dooga's statement?


    :confused:


    What is wrong with you people???
     
  11. Nov 4, 2004 #10
    Ironic because i don't support him. I don't supprot social conservatism. I don't like religious fundamentalists. But, I HATE socialists. Thats what it comes down to.
     
  12. Nov 4, 2004 #11
    I have a hard time seeing how his statement is even half as ignorant is Dooga's diatribe...
     
  13. Nov 4, 2004 #12
    Its a failure of democracy because the majority got what they asked for?

    Or because they didn't ask for what you wanted?
     
  14. Nov 4, 2004 #13

    I bow before your superior counterpoint?
     
  15. Nov 4, 2004 #14

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    Most Americans did, in fact, vote for Bush because of a lack of intelligence (fear) or they were conservative Christians, which does correlate with intelligence.
     
  16. Nov 4, 2004 #15

    arildno

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    I completely disagree with Dooga's statement that the US is a failing democracy.
    IMO, it is not.
     
  17. Nov 4, 2004 #16
    Because he agrees with Dooga's diatribe. He doesn't agree with me.
     
  18. Nov 4, 2004 #17

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    What's a socialist? Your using such a broad term, is Tony Blair's Labour party socialist (they are infact in the Socialist bl;ock of the European parliment), is it the Swedish democratic socialist model your talking about? Is it marginal groups like the Socilaist Workers Party? is it Trotskyism/Marxism/Maoism/Hoxhaism/Stalinism/Leninism?
     
  19. Nov 4, 2004 #18
    I suppose you expect me to just believe you? I could easily just make up something and say its true but I will not because I actually try to support my arguments with some kind of evidence which I might add you have NONE of and I challenge you to either find some real non biased proof for your claims or concede that you are basing your ideas on ignorance!

    Regards
     
  20. Nov 4, 2004 #19

    arildno

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    Thank you.
    Learn something about the rest of the world before you speak.
     
  21. Nov 4, 2004 #20
    Stop that stupid argument on sociailism, it shows how you are conditioned by elites to think that any progressive public program like national medicare eqates in your mind with something scary.
    Democracy means rule by the people,meanwhile what we have in USA is extreme plutocracy .
    If you were ultra rich I would agree with your statement 100% but reading from your profile you are propably just student in debt,and people like this should be more compassionate and think about other less fortunate!
     
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