setAI said:if i needed an operation- I would rather be in Sweden than Philadelphia- and so would you Franz-
it always puzzles me how people rationalize social-darwinism when fitness is too complex to measure in humans- we all have weaknesses and strengths- and you cannot justify discarding PEOPLE- what do you have to say about people that are disabled and cannot work? do we throw them to the wolves? what about the working poor- like black single mothers working two jobs that still can't pay for her children? do we let her family suffer instead of helping? do you relay on the private sector and hope they aren't greedy? what about the homeless who ar 90% too mentally ill to even make decisions? do we restart the zyklon ovens or do you try to help them?
1) The disabled.
There are few people so disabled that they cannot find some work. The majority of the "disabled" (by that i mean people turning in disability checks from the government) are people who could function just fine, and are complaing of something like Carpal tunnel's synndrome, which while painful is not generally debilitating. Those people should be getting nothing.
People who in fact are so disabled that they cannot provide for themselves, which to truly be that disabled they would have to be very nearly unable to survive on their own, are what i would consider a special case, and an exception.
Maybe you've never worked with the working poor (I worked in San Fernando for a while, largely hispanic, in fact you can't work there without speaking spanish so many people don't speak english. ), but there are two groups of them:
Immigrants who moved here. I've met people who moved here from Mexico, legally, and have held the same job for 15-20 years. The same minimum wage job, working to support their families. And those jobs suck, i know, i was working right there next to them for a while. I have enormous respect for them as people who have worked to earn what they get. Help them. I would support that wholly.
Young, second or third generation poor. I worked with these people too. Almost everyone of them sold or did drugs (about 3/4). Some of them were single mothers pregnant at nineteen. They are irresponsible people. they have no sense of responsibility, honor, or dignity. They had bad attendance records at work, wasted their paychecks within days. These people deserve exactly what they've gotten. They can rot. AS for their children, get them the hell away from their parents. try to save their children from them. But they themselves deserve nothing.
3) The Mentally ill homeless
If they are severely mentally ill i consider them to fall under the section of truly disabled. that does not mean you hand them money though, you ahve them committed.