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Percentage of Married people down-why?

  1. Jan 18, 2010 #1
    Percentage of Married people down---why?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/world/americas/15iht-web.1015wed.3163579.html


    I heard this last year on the news, and was curious why this is happening.


    was in the article for one reason. I don't think its the major reason though.


    Are people getting too particular for themselves? Growing unsure about making a commitment? Do they like their independence too much? Is it more of the man's fault or the woman's?


    People may have specific reasons, but even though the article is a couple of years old, I would guess things haven't changed that much since the article was written.

    (I was thinking about this from just the high percentage of people I know living in my neighborhood.)

    (and-since was not about a specific relationship, I put it in GD----if one of you mentors want to move it to 'relationships'--that's fine with me)
     
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  3. Jan 18, 2010 #2

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    Re: Percentage of Married people down---why?

    After 2 marriages, I probably would not get married again unless there was a large legal benefit. With laws becomming more lax to extend benefits to a "significant other", I think fewer people are willing to tie the knot afer being burned.

    I also know many women that decided not to get married because they had also decided not to have children, so didn't see the point. Many of them live with the man they love and have great relationships.
     
  4. Jan 18, 2010 #3
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    burned?

    emotionally? physically? socially? financially?

    (or, all of the above?)

    --not specifically 'you' if you don't want to answer---which of those is used for the 'reason' that you have heard most often?


    More often than not, I hear the answer--'I just haven't found the right person'



    something of recent:

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  5. Jan 18, 2010 #4

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    Financially, at least for me.
     
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  6. Jan 18, 2010 #5
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    there is less stigma now to people "shacking up".
     
  7. Jan 18, 2010 #6
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    I wonder how much correlation there is also with the 'media'---and ease of transportation. Seeing what else is 'out there' with movies, TV, etc. and mobility of leaving one area to 'see what's available' (cars, trains, and planes). "The grass is greener" idea is strong in a lot of people.
     
  8. Jan 18, 2010 #7

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    I would think that a large fraction of the change is due to the increase in the average marriage age.
     
  9. Jan 18, 2010 #8
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    That's gotta be a large part of it. But that doesn't sound as good at the Values Voters' Summit.
     
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  10. Jan 18, 2010 #9
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    Moynihan Report The name conventionally given to the volume on The Negro Family: The Case for National Action, published by the US Department of Labor in 1965, and authored by the American social scientist and politician Daniel P. Moynihan.

    The reasons given by Moynihan in 1965 for the deterioration of black families now applies to U.S. families of all races.
     
  11. Jan 18, 2010 #10
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    My guess is pretty much a move in the feminist movement, an inspiration for individuality.
    With these morals, its not difficult to reason why marriages do not hold together.
    A little history of marriages will reveal that marriages were maintained because male and female depended on each other for survival. This in turn evolves into a tradition and for the sake of tradition, we had maintained the ideal marriage. In fact, I would argue this is how the concept of love for husband and wife evolved from the necessity for survival.
    In korea, wives had to deal with husbands; to divorce is to bring upon shame upon their family.
    In a summary, cultures break, when the reasoning no longer exists. Although I will not attribute the feminist movement to the marriage divorces or less marriages, I will say that it did revolutionize the concept that woman does not need man to survive.
     
  12. Jan 18, 2010 #11

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    I think it's a combination of what Russ said, that the average age people get married is increasing, along with less stigma to getting divorced and living together unmarried...or even keeping separate households and thus not driving each other mad so quickly. :biggrin:
     
  13. Jan 18, 2010 #12
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    Why do you use the term "fault?" That word implies that being unmarried is wrong, and you're looking to blame somebody for it. Is being married a somehow more "correct" than being unmarried? If so, why?
     
  14. Jan 21, 2010 #13
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    don't make too much out of it...

    I included it as a 'generality view on social behaviors'. If, for example, you can just look at TV shows, a lot of them deal with the 'abnormal' / wrong lifestyle and behaviors of singles, and those that are married trying to get/correct their friends into marriage.
     
  15. Jan 21, 2010 #14
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    In my case... it was a health benefit! I think this is why the Republicans are blocking healthcare reform. :devil: They want all of us underemployed (or unemployed) folks without health benefits tucked into heterosexual marriages with a spouse who provides those benefits.

    As you all know, might as well take advantage of those heath benefits... Little E, the recession baby, sure is cute.

    "Family values" for sure.
     
  16. Jan 21, 2010 #15
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    It definitely feels that way in some cultures. I have a lot of married acquaintances my age (22) because they're from cultures where there's a strong push for it. My single friends from the same cultures get so much guilt, drama, or pressure; makes for some great snarky comments, but it's also kind of awful. One of the most insulting things I've seen is basically a bounty for finding a match for a girl over 25. It's got tons of really good intentions behind it and all, but it also kind of stamps a sell-by date on girls.

    My votes with everyone else, it's a combination of changing cultural values and getting married at an older age. I also wonder if the divorce rate (or seeing parents divorce) is scaring anyone off, but I don't know if there's hard data on that.
     
  17. Jan 21, 2010 #16

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    But it also varies a LOT from country to country, even in the western world. In Sweden there is really no legal reason to get married anymore (except for a few details,mainly related to inheritance, but they are largely irrelevant as long as you write a will).
    As long as you are "cohabitants" (I guess that is the best word it) a number of laws automatically kick in, including some that regulate financial arrangements etc if you break up (if you own a house together and so on); kids are obviously also included.
    Most of these laws came into place in the early eighties (and are gender neutral, and so is btw marriage).

    Hence, the only reason couples get married in Sweden is because they think it is romantic.

    However, you only have to go to Norway (which otherwise culturally is VERY similar to Sweden) and the situation is very different, then there are all sorts of practical reasons to get married, especially if you have kids (I have family in Norway).
     
  18. Jan 21, 2010 #17
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    Because I'm now limiting the number of wives in my harem.:tongue2:
     
  19. Jan 22, 2010 #18
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    At another forum I mentioned that I do not want to get married, someone said, "GOOD LUCK with that, 90% of American women today marry up." I think I would prefer cohabitation though.

    Evo just curious/confused, are not you married currently?
     
  20. Jan 22, 2010 #19

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    No, I'm not married.
     
  21. Jan 22, 2010 #20
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    I'm afraid it's my fault. When we wed, 100% of the people in our family were married. That soon dwindled to 66% and now only 50% of the populace in my household are married. Sorry.
     
  22. Jan 22, 2010 #21
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    so, two kids?
     
  23. Jan 22, 2010 #22

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    Like Jimmy, my household started off at 100% married, declined to 67%, 50%, 40%, and 33% increased back to 40%; then decreased to 25%; increased to 33%, then 50%, before decreasing to 0%.
     
  24. Jan 22, 2010 #23

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    That's not bad really. It's down to 40% here.
     
  25. Jan 22, 2010 #24
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    let us know if it gets below that level
     
  26. Jan 22, 2010 #25
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    I thought you were married to Kurdt...? That's why I was confused.
     
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