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Can you guys think of an economy where everyone one will be happy? I can't.
Ronnin said:Even with this system there are going to be those who believe they are entitled to a greater share of the resources for whatever reason.
sebas531 said:Rade, do you care to explain why you think that capitalism is a perfect econmy, where every one would be happy?(That is part of the topic)
superweirdo said:Can you guys think of an economy where everyone one will be happy? I can't.
Gelsamel Epsilon said:If everything was free and you had an unlimited supply of everything then everyone would be happy. But It wouldn't really be an economy.
superweirdo said:The problem w/ the current economy is that great painters aren't being appreciated. A table tennis players tries just as hard as a basketball player but the basketball player earns a lot more. Why?
superweirdo said:Can you guys think of an economy where everyone one will be happy? I can't.
superweirdo said:The problem w/ the current economy is that great painters aren't being appreciated. A table tennis players tries just as hard as a basketball player but the basketball player earns a lot more. Why?
No, soccer sells more because of peoples demand for it. Marketing is a tool to either generate or enhance demand. It does so by trying to convince you as a potential buyer that you "need" whatever it is they are selling. Would marketing enhance the demand for table tennis, maybe. Would it ever rival the other major sports, no. People on average do not want to sit and watch table tennis. I believe most people think of it more as a recreational game than a sport.superweirdo said:naah, I don't think it is just marketing, look at how many people can see soccer and how many poeple can watch table tennis. Soccer sells more tickets b/c it is a bigger game.
superweirdo said:naah, I don't think it is just marketing, look at how many people can see soccer and how many poeple can watch table tennis. Soccer sells more tickets b/c it is a bigger game.
superweirdo said:May be I started this forum from a long pace but what I mean by everyone will be happy is that everyone's goal will accomplished. Everyone will be successful. Happiness is something that comes from inside. THat comes from love, it is something no amount of perfection can create. I dream of an economy where nobody complains about their jobs, where nobody blaims their problems on someone else. Where everyone is disciplined and integried.
My point is, right now, the economy is a win loose thing. THere is competetion in everything, one looses one wins. I want a win-win economy. COmpetetion can still be there but everybody has to have his day. I believe in future, when there will be no more crimes, all the low jobs will be done by robots, we will stop reproducing b/c we will stop dyieng too, may be we will be able to achieve eternal happiness without death.
superweirdo said:... but what I mean by everyone will be happy is that everyone's goal will accomplished. Everyone will be successful.
This doesn't describe the economy, but the participants in it. Not complaining, not blaming other people, being disciplined... these are all part of personal ethics.I dream of an economy where nobody complains about their jobs, where nobody blaims their problems on someone else. Where everyone is disciplined and integried.
No, not really. Every transaction is a win/win situation, if it's done willingly and honestly. Granted, people are not always honest and government keeps extending its coercion. For example, governments coerce their method of education upon the populous. This is not a willing transaction, and the product is a lot of unhappy, unsatisfied students who don't know very much. Every problem you've talked about is not systemic to the economy.My point is, right now, the economy is a win loose thing.
we will stop reproducing b/c we will stop dyieng too, may be we will be able to achieve eternal happiness without death.
You misunderstand market economics. When you buy a car from a car dealer, who loses in that transaction? The dealer gets money and you get a car.superweirdo said:My point is, right now, the economy is a win loose thing. THere is competetion in everything, one looses one wins. I want a win-win economy.
russ_watters said:You misunderstand market economics. When you buy a car from a car dealer, who loses in that transaction? The dealer gets money and you get a car.
More generally, people often think things like investing are a zero-sum game: ie, in order for one person to make money in the stock market, someone else has to lose. That simply isn't the case.
Perhaps. I'm not really sure.selfAdjoint said:Perhaps sw was refrerring to competition for jobs.
I'm not sure I understand this part. What does moral virtue have to do with this? I do fully recognize that talent and luck play a role in who gets where in life - were you under the impression that I don't believe that?Talent and luck - i.e. things beyond our willpower to alter, play a large part in who gets hired and who doesn't*. And the don'ts, the underemployed, are the shocktroops of crime and revolution.
*I know you don't agree with this Russ, but I believe the idea that a good salary is a reward for moral virtue is just patently wrong.
superweirdo said:I was just asking if there is a way for a perfect economy in which everyone can be happy w/ their jobs and salary.