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~christina~
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NeoDevin said:Guilty until proven innocent, eh?
They have good lawyers.
NeoDevin said:Guilty until proven innocent, eh?
There is no such "innocent" requirement on personal opinions.NeoDevin said:Guilty until proven innocent, eh?
I read a bit about those two and they were certainly rather crazy. I'm not so sure that PETA was supporting this especially when they apparently have a freezer somewhere for storing the bodies. Though they may have started out "working" for PETA and received their materials from them PETA may not have realized what they were doing.~christina~ said:Well below there is a a site that actually followed the court case where 2 PETA workers were euthanizing animals in their van and then proceded to dump the bodies in a dumpster. They did pick up animals that MAY have been euthanized in the future, however the pair of kittens that they killed may have been adopted . A dog that they picked up in their van did not need to be euthanized and was healthy. They assured the shelter people that they would "find it a good home" and they even did this in front of the people that they took those animals from. They explained that the injections were to "sedate" the animals and make them calmer for transportation, but in reality they were injecting them with sodium pentobarbital.
I don't doubt that PETA gave them the bottles of solution and ordered them to go out in their van and do this.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/Trial_Day1.cfm
Saladsamurai said:There are millions of wonderful pets waiting in shelters for a home. That's where I found my cats Legolas and Aragorn.
robertm said:Those are the best cat names I've ever herd!
TheStatutoryApe said:I read a bit about those two and they were certainly rather crazy. I'm not so sure that PETA was supporting this especially when they apparently have a freezer somewhere for storing the bodies. Though they may have started out "working" for PETA and received their materials from them PETA may not have realized what they were doing.
No, I'm objecting to your claim that the animals are suffering. I think you are wrong and I think they are putting perfectly healthy animals to sleep.TheStatutoryApe said:So you think they would rather see an animal suffer?
AFAIK, most animals that are euthanized at shelters are not euthenized because they are unhealthy, they are euthanized because they can't find adoptive homes. That's the point of this criticism of PETA: they are taking animals from shelters specifically for the purpose of saving them and they are not saving very many of them. They are failing in the stated goal of the program.They were specifically taking animals from shelters that would have been euthanized anyway so that's that question... Were all of these animals they killed in a condition that required euthanization or not?
Exactly. That's why I said it's a bold claim - well, that and the lack of logic to the claim.I haven't seen an article that mentions it.
There is a legitimate organization that peoplc can trust to donate their money to to save/adopt animals: the SPCA.robertm said:I can't see why anyone who wants to help domestic animals in terrible plights would ever donate there money to any organization and trust ANY organization to do it for them.
I'll give you several reasons just off the top of my head:robertm said:I can't see why anyone who wants to help domestic animals in terrible plights would ever donate there money to any organization and trust ANY organization to do it for them. Its naive and no different then those carbon credits. Just think if very single person who donated to PETA simply went out and did some local work equal to the money they spent... I wonder which situation would be better for the animals...
If you look at the part of my post you quoted you'll see that I specifically mentioned the freezer. So if they have a freezer, presumably for storage of bodies, and these two crazies were working for them then why were they illegally dumping bodies someplace?~christina~ said:You're funny...you do know that PETA actually purchased a $9,370 walk in freezer themselves? It must be for food.
Legally you need to be a vet to obtain or possesses it. They may have procured it illegally on their own or through PETA who probably have enough vets and the like involved to have at least obtained it legally.christina said:I was just wondering where the 2 people could get the sodium pentobarbital. Could they have purchased it from a store? (is it legal)
My claim was that these animals may have been suffering and may have needed to be put down but no articles (accept about the two crazies that were arrested) state anything about the health of the animals and whether or not they ought to have been put down.Russ said:No, I'm objecting to your claim that the animals are suffering. I think you are wrong and I think they are putting perfectly healthy animals to sleep.
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Exactly. That's why I said it's a bold claim - well, that and the lack of logic to the claim.