PETA strikes again

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When I first heard of PETA, I thought, aww, some nice people working for animal rights. Now when I hear about PETA, I think "what ridiculous thing have they done now?"

Here's the latest. Can't have chimpanzees on tv. I loved the chimp detonating the confetti in the Dodge commercial.

Auto company Dodge recently found itself in PETA's crosshairs after the carmaker aired a commercial starring a monkey dressed up like Evel Knievel. But, unlike many who draw the ire of PETA, Dodge fought back in a most amusing way.

Below, the original ad that inspired PETA to pen an open letter condemning Dodge for using a monkey, "given the well-documented abuse that young chimpanzees and orangutans suffer in the entertainment industry." PETA goes on to write, "Dodge isn't going to dodge a bullet on this one. It needs to pull the ad — and we've contacted the company asking it to do just that.
If you want to see Dodge's response to PETA, check out the new commercial.

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93924?fp=1 [Broken]
 
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Funny commercial! I've thought much the same about PETA.
 

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Wow, when I first saw the edited commercial (after having already seen the original) I assumed I must have been drunk and high. Good to know I was just drunk.

I do love PETA though.
 

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My only objection to the commercial is calling a chimpanzee a 'monkey'. I can feel my anthropologist friends cringing already.

[Edit: 'Ape' is the appropriate term, btw.]
 
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Meh. I too do not feel the need to force animals to do things in order to satisfy my need for humor. But PETA does certainly have a way of polarizing people...
 
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It is not pleasing to see wild animals (even domestic) being used for some kinds of entertainments.

http://enextranet.animalwelfareonline.org/Images/resources_Animals%20in%20Entertainment_false_An-Overview-of-Animals-in-Entertainment-English_tcm34-11715.pdf [Broken]

I can recall bull/dog fighting.
 
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It is not pleasing to see wild animals (even domestic) being used for some kinds of entertainments.

http://enextranet.animalwelfareonline.org/Images/resources_Animals%20in%20Entertainment_false_An-Overview-of-Animals-in-Entertainment-English_tcm34-11715.pdf [Broken]

I can recall bull/dog fighting.
I wonder how many animals would be completely extinct without zoos or places where animals are held in captivity. Sure a lot of things humans have done with animals isn't the most humane or 'nice' things but I don't see how bull/dog fighting or circus abuse has to do with the dodge commercial.

Has it been specifically proven/shown that the animal in the dodge commerical was not properly taken care of? Has it been treated inhumanely? The only objection I can really see just from the evidence provided is that people shouldn't have chimps as pets or keep them captive. In my opinion however, that isn't gonna go anywhere.
 
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I wonder how many animals would be completely extinct without zoos or places where animals are held in captivity. Sure a lot of things humans have done with animals isn't the most humane or 'nice' things but I don't see how bull/dog fighting or circus abuse has to do with the dodge commercial.

Has it been specifically proven/shown that the animal in the dodge commerical was not properly taken care of? Has it been treated inhumanely? The only objection I can really see just from the evidence provided is that people shouldn't have chimps as pets or keep them captive. In my opinion however, that isn't gonna go anywhere.
I was only presenting my agreement with dreiter post. It does not have anything to do with dodge or the PETA position.
 

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It is not pleasing to see wild animals (even domestic) being used for some kinds of entertainments.

http://enextranet.animalwelfareonline.org/Images/resources_Animals%20in%20Entertainment_false_An-Overview-of-Animals-in-Entertainment-English_tcm34-11715.pdf [Broken]

I can recall bull/dog fighting.
I don't like to see animals "perform" for human entertainment, either. If a person is so bored with life they need to be entertained by an animal doing tricks, they need to get a better hobby, imo.
 
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I don't like to see animals "perform" for human entertainment, either.
What about humans? Hoe do you feel about them performing?

Just curious.
 

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Personally, I'd like to see an elephant skin Pamela Anderson and wear her implants as earmuffs.
 
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What about humans? Hoe do you feel about them performing?

Just curious.
I wouldn't like human performance where the performer is forced to act without his/her consent.
 
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What mistreatment, what forcing? I happen to know that the monkey was given a very expensive cigar as compensation for his work.
 

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I don't like to see animals "perform" for human entertainment, either. If a person is so bored with life they need to be entertained by an animal doing tricks, they need to get a better hobby, imo.
Do you have pets?
 

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I wouldn't like human performance where the performer is forced to act without his/her consent.
That's my feeling too. And in a show like the circus or SeaWorld, where there is a paying audience, I very much doubt the "stars of the show" are given the option to perform or not.
 
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I love animal rights nutters, they make me giggle. They don't seem to make the distinction between bear baiting and dressing a monkey up in a dress.

That chimp in the dodge as was clearly loving it. Just like the PG tips monkeys loved it.
 
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This poor dog was forced to be in a sleeping pill ad. not

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I have taught my dog to do things when I want him to. Not tricks, per se, but sit, lie down, stay, come, heel, stop, etc. It's good bonding for us because he loves the praise and reinforcement, and it might save his life if he headed for the road and I need to stop him.
 
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Seriously some animals love to perform. It has to be taken on a case by case basis.
 

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Yes, a cat. She knows no tricks, not one.
Does she use a litter box?

Is she allowed to come and go as she pleases? Eat anything she wants?
 
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Does she use a litter box?

Is she allowed to come and go as she pleases? Eat anything she wants?
I think it's similar to raising children. While they need restrictions on what they can do; however, sometimes parents don't make good decisions: reality/beauty shows.
 

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Does she use a litter box?

Is she allowed to come and go as she pleases? Eat anything she wants?
Yep, you got it. Except no litter box, she goes outside.

What the heck is your point? What does my cat have to do with the examples I gave, the circus and SeaWorld?

Or are you just looking for pointers on cat care?
 

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No, lisa, I'm not looking for pointers on cat care - I'm just trying to see where the line is for you. Most people who make such criticisms of animals in media don't view their animals to be in the same situtation, but they typically are. As a cat owner who doesn't use a litter box and lets their cat go outside, you give your cat a very unusual amount of freedom. Few pet owners do (and most veterinary professionals would actually say that freedom is bad for pets).

A cat using a litter box and a dog begging for a treat are in exactly the same ethical situation as the animals in the circus and SeaWorld, with only relatively minor variations in degree.

I go a few steps in the opposite direction, though.
 

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