Hey- I've read these forums for a couple of months, I'm sort of a nerd, so i enjoy working out problems even if i never post solutions to them. :). Anyways, I do have a question. I was wondering about the difference between masters and PhD programs in physics and mathematics. I've heard several of the faculty in the physics department mention that a masters in physics is sort of a consolation prize. So are there phd programs that you go to straight out of undergrad, or is that something they're lying to me about? the same question goes for math. thanks!