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  1. Sep 26, 2004 #1
    This problem set is for my oscillations and wave class; I just can't seem to make any solutions work.



    The problem is a mass on spring pendulum with some given coordinates

    time(s) displacement(cm) velocity(cm/s) acceleration(cm/s^2)
    1.31 4.00 0 not recorded
    3.67 not recorded not recorded 7.93

    what length must the string be? You may need to solve this graphically




    that's the question so I started by writing out the equation of motion for a simple harmonic oscillator

    x(t) = Acos(wt + phi), w= omega and phi= phase shift and A is max amplitude. However the velocity is 0 at the endpoints and that happens at t=1.31 so A=4

    x(t) = 4cos(wt + phi)


    then I tried substituing in the coordinate restrictions

    x(1.31) = 4= 4cost(1.31w +phi)

    0= 1.31w + phi
    phi= -1.31w


    Then to get more equations I differentiated and used the restriction on acceleration
    x'(1.31) = -4w sin( w1.31 + phi) =0


    x'' (3.67) = 7.93 = -4w^2cos(w1.31+ phi)

    which would mean

    w = 1.40801


    then by the simple harmonic equation

    x''(t) + w^2x(t) = 0

    x''(3.67) + 1.9825 x(3.67) = 0

    x(3.67) = -4

    so that would mean that the bob is at the other end and we could fill in the rest of the chart

    time(s) displacement(cm) velocity(cm/s) acceleration(cm/s^2)
    1.31 4.00 0 -7.93
    3.67 -4.00 0 7.93


    at this point I'm stuck. I don't really know how to finish the question but I feel it is in the right direction. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. Sep 26, 2004 #2
    I'm kind of stuck in a circular loop. The derivation of omega I get makes the angle I produce MUCH too large (i.e. 90 degrees) is there another approach I could try (even a suggestion would be appreciated.)
     
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