Physics or engineering? (Spain)

In summary, the conversation discusses the decision of choosing a career between engineering and physics for an 18-year-old high school student from Spain. The student has a passion for physics and interest in engineering due to their experiences with electronics. However, they are unsure of the job prospects in the field of physics and the possibility of combining both fields of study. The conversation also mentions the difficulty of finding a job as a physicist and the option of studying engineering after completing a physics degree.
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Andropov
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I know this has been asked a lot, but I have to ask myself for an opinion factoring my own background:

I'm a 18 year old high student from Spain, who has to choose his career in the next few weeks. I used to think I would study engineering at university, but during those last two years at high school I've been changing my mind significantly.
First of all, what is taught at engineering doesn't really interest in the way physics does. Indeed, I mostly wanted to study engineering because since I was a child I've been disassembling and reassembling computers and all kinds of electronics (including recent Arduino projects) and the jobs a engineer can get are more similar to this "vocation" I had (building and designing electronics).
However, in those last two years I also realized that physics classes REALLY interested me. Knowing how the world really is and how it works. As a child I was also interested in astronomy, though now I have found other fields in physics that interested me even more.

So I'm more or less sure that physics as a career would be more interesting and fun than engineering, but what would I do after college? What does a physicist do exactly? Would I really struggle to find a job in my field? This uncertainty is what scares me most, as if I choose to be an engineer finding a job shouldn't be too difficult and I could also study physics though books and/or courses even if I wouldn't get any official acknowledgment.
 
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A physicist performs research, usually at a university. Know that the vast majority of physics majors never become professional physicists. In fact, most physics PhDs never become professional physicists. So the answer to your bolded question would be yes, getting a job as a physicist is hard. If this is what you want to do I suggest reading the "so you want to be a physicist" thread pinned to the top of the Academic Guidance forum. It describes the process from getting your first degree, getting into graduate school, getting your papers publised, presenting at conferences, finishing your phd, looking for and succeeding in post docs and then finally looking for a permanant position.
 
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Andropov said:
I know this has been asked a lot, but I have to ask myself for an opinion factoring my own background:

I'm a 18 year old high student from Spain, who has to choose his career in the next few weeks. I used to think I would study engineering at university, but during those last two years at high school I've been changing my mind significantly.
First of all, what is taught at engineering doesn't really interest in the way physics does. Indeed, I mostly wanted to study engineering because since I was a child I've been disassembling and reassembling computers and all kinds of electronics (including recent Arduino projects) and the jobs a engineer can get are more similar to this "vocation" I had (building and designing electronics).
However, in those last two years I also realized that physics classes REALLY interested me. Knowing how the world really is and how it works. As a child I was also interested in astronomy, though now I have found other fields in physics that interested me even more.

So I'm more or less sure that physics as a career would be more interesting and fun than engineering, but what would I do after college? What does a physicist do exactly? Would I really struggle to find a job in my field? This uncertainty is what scares me most, as if I choose to be an engineer finding a job shouldn't be too difficult and I could also study physics though books and/or courses even if I wouldn't get any official acknowledgment.
Are you allowed, in your region, to earn a degree in Physics and also enroll in some engineering courses, or to earn a "minor" in engineering along with your degree in Physics? As for actually finding a job later, one would need to be familiar with how "human resource managers" assess candidates for jobs in your region.
 
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ModusPwnd said:
A physicist performs research, usually at a university. Know that the vast majority of physics majors never become professional physicists. In fact, most physics PhDs never become professional physicists. So the answer to your bolded question would be yes, getting a job as a physicist is hard. If this is what you want to do I suggest reading the "so you want to be a physicist" thread pinned to the top of the Academic Guidance forum. It describes the process from getting your first degree, getting into graduate school, getting your papers publised, presenting at conferences, finishing your phd, looking for and succeeding in post docs and then finally looking for a permanant position.

Well, that's a shame. A job at something that I partially like seems better than a job at a different field to the one I studied, so I may just stick with a engineering degree. I have had read that pinned thread though.

symbolipoint said:
Are you allowed, in your region, to earn a degree in Physics and also enroll in some engineering courses, or to earn a "minor" in engineering along with your degree in Physics? As for actually finding a job later, one would need to be familiar with how "human resource managers" assess candidates for jobs in your region.

No. Or at least, none that I'm aware of (so probably there isn't an equivalent to that here in Spain). I could study a physics degree first and engineering afterwards (and I wouldn't need to take again subjects that I've already studied in the prior physics degree so I could finish it faster), but that would leave me with no master at all after 6 years (at best).
 

1. What is the difference between physics and engineering?

While both physics and engineering deal with the laws of nature and use mathematical principles to solve problems, physics focuses on understanding the fundamental principles and properties of matter and energy, while engineering applies this knowledge to design and build practical solutions to real-world problems.

2. Can I study physics or engineering in Spain?

Yes, there are many universities in Spain that offer undergraduate and graduate programs in both physics and engineering. Some of the top universities in Spain for these fields include Universidad Autónoma de Madrid, Universidad de Barcelona, and Universidad de Sevilla.

3. What are some common career paths for physics or engineering graduates in Spain?

Graduates in these fields can pursue careers in a variety of industries, including aerospace, energy, automotive, telecommunications, and research. Some common job titles for physics graduates in Spain include physicist, research scientist, and data analyst, while engineering graduates can become engineers, project managers, consultants, or professors.

4. Are there any notable Spanish physicists or engineers?

Yes, there are many notable Spanish physicists and engineers, including Nobel Prize-winning physicist Severo Ochoa, who discovered the enzyme responsible for the synthesis of RNA, and engineer Leonardo Torres Quevedo, who built the first computer in Spain and invented the cable car system.

5. What is the current state of physics and engineering research in Spain?

Spain has a strong presence in the fields of physics and engineering research, with many universities and research centers conducting groundbreaking studies in areas such as renewable energy, materials science, quantum computing, and robotics. The Spanish government also invests heavily in research and development, providing funding and resources for innovative projects in these fields.

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