# Pre-sizing

1. Feb 16, 2004

### jimmy p

How come when manufacturers pre-size things for the mould, they ALWAYS come up with such random numbers!!

For example today, i was looking for a new CD rack, and all i saw were things like "holds 64 cds", "can store up to 92 cds", holds "140 cds and 14 videos", holds "312 cds and 41 DVDs".

WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THESE INAPPROPRIATE PROPORTIONS???? I want a CD rack that holds 150 cds. I dont want my cd rack to whiten my teeth in my sleep or contain up to 5 televisions (what im going to do with 5 televisions in my room i dont know!), NO EXTRAS, just CDs. And a nice metric number. not 312 cds. 300 would be fine. ARGH IT JUST MAKES ME GO CRAZY

And the list could go on? why why why why why WHY WHY do they come up with such STUPID numbers and sizes. And comparisons to size as well, when they are really disjointed. "has the capacity of 5 litres or 12 RUBBER DUCKS" (there is no product description like this that i know of, its just an example) but the point is that they are always inane and illogical comparisons. Like i care that 12 rubber ducks is 5 litres!!!

Rant over, i just got very bitter today cos i went home empty handed.

Does this annoy other people? Can you give more examples?

2. Feb 16, 2004

### megashawn

Well, its an advertising ploy. They use odd numbers for two reasons I can think of.

1) To impress. 312 is 12 more then 300. By some peoples mentality, bigger is better, so the one claiming 312 will sell.

2) Intentionally stupid. In other words, some ads are designed to be stupid, so as to grasp your attention. For instance, how many "normal" things do you remember from your recent visit to the market? Something that is stupid or irrational will stick out in your mind much better then something that goes with the flow.

3. Feb 16, 2004

### motai

America is like this and it seems we cannot do anything about it. You cant fight city hall.

4. Feb 16, 2004

### jimmy p

buts its so ANNOYING...which could lead on to another rant about why the 'masses' are so damn stupid. but i will save that. 350 sounds more than 312 and its more practical. But people are morons.

5. Feb 16, 2004

### enigma

Staff Emeritus
They probably got a discount on boards which were X long. X long corresponds to 312 cds.

I'd bet it's conversion factors between metric and USCS systems.

6. Feb 16, 2004

### DarkAnt

The world is out to get you jimmy, the sooner you realize this the better

7. Feb 17, 2004

### jimmy p

Your right DarkAnt, they are out to get me *giggles insanely* But you guys at PF are my friends arent you?? *eyes PF warily*, you'll help me get them first!!

8. Feb 17, 2004

### one_raven

Well, then someone will come out with a 362 CD case!

I think it is probably a lot more logical than you might think.
For example, a portable soft shell CD case should have a capacity divisable by the number of CD's per page (both sides).
That number would likely be 2 (small), 4 (medium) or 8 (large).
Anything larger than 8 would be unweildy.
3, 5, 6 and 7 would be odd shaped and a waste of usable space.
Then, they have to consider how thick it will be full, and the ease of handling that thickness (remember that a large portion of CD buyers are pre-teen to teenage girls with tiny hands).
Then, they have to consider the weight, how neatly it fits into backpacks and such etc...
I have a portabls CD case that holds 128 CD's.
16 pages of CD's that are nicely placed, comfortable to handle and the case is thinner than some notebook computers when full.
If they added a few more sheets, it would be a lot less comfortable to carry around.

9. Feb 17, 2004

### Monique

Staff Emeritus

So then why don't you buy one rack which holds 64 CD's and one that stores 92, you'd have space for 156 CD's

10. Feb 17, 2004

### Artman

I really like the rubber duck system and I hope that it is adopted someday as the international standard. I imagine I could learn it easier than meteric.

11. Feb 17, 2004

### Monique

Staff Emeritus
Talking about odd numbers, why do they price things one cent cheaper than it should be?

NOW! ONLY €29,99

They are introducing this neat thing in stores now, if an item is €3,01 or €2,99 you can pay €3,00 and noone asks questions Whoever thought of introducing €0,01 €0,02 €0,05 together with the Euro? Crazy bankers.. I have to carry a separate bag for my wallet

12. Feb 17, 2004

### jimmy p

Re: Re: Pre-sizing

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!! BUT WHY 156?? 150 would be ok!!! THINK METRIC MR DEVELOPER BEFORE I HUNT YOU DOWN AND INFLICT 312 CD'S WORTH OF PAIN!!! ...oh and 41 DVD's!!

13. Feb 17, 2004

### MacTech

I think you should just store your cds on the ground ;) tho you probably don't know how many cds can't fit in your room, hehe. Plus it is free.

14. Feb 17, 2004

### Loren Booda

I have an relic Egyptian CD rack that holds 360 CD's.

If man were born with 312 fingers...

15. Feb 18, 2004

### jimmy p

I have heard that the Rubber Duck or RD system is coming into play, first of all they have to decide on the standard size of a rubber duck.

I agree with you Monique, £3.99??? why not £4? Like that 1p is going to make that much difference until you have bought 100 items. Then u can bag the pennies and take them down the bank and exchange a pound coin. Thats what i do. Throw it back in the "a penny less" man's face...JERKS!!!

I wouldnt store my cd's on the floor, im a freak for cd neatness, they would have to be constantly straight and in alphabetical order.

and 312 fingers???? where did that come from?? and do u mean on each hand? or all together?

16. Feb 18, 2004

### Loren Booda

Our counting system rather arbitrarily relies on our ten digits ("fingers").

17. Feb 18, 2004

### deltabourne

I want to know why there are no normal products any more, the smallest size is always a large, the least powerful is always a maximum strength. Years ago if you had a platinum credit card people would like at you like you were some kind of credit rating master, today I got a pre-application in the mail for a DOUBLE platinum card and i'm only a college student

It can pretty much be summed up by the theory "bigger is better"

18. Feb 18, 2004

### jimmy p

That's some crazy s**t man! It's pretty bad in Britain, because being in debt is rife and people are constantly borrowing money. It seems that every other advert on TV is to do with consolidating loans. And the banks dont help by giving out quadruple gold/platinum alloy cards! FOOLS!!

19. Feb 18, 2004

### Artman

Have you ever had this conversation?

"I would like a small soft drink please."

"We don't have small, just medium and large."

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but, if one size is large and the other size is less big, isn't it small????

20. Feb 19, 2004

### jimmy p

LOL yes i have!! those CRAZEE fast food workers. Another classic would be to say you want a medium meal, and the ask you if you want to go large...no, i said MEDIUM AHOLE!!