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Precog dream paradox

  1. Aug 27, 2004 #1
    I saw a movie about precog dreaming some days ago, called ”Minority report”. The movie is in the science fiction genre, and it is about some precog dreamers who helps the police.

    This movie reminded me that the time is propably more complex and paradoxal than we usually think.
    In “Minority report”, it seems that the time is predetermined, but also that there is 2 or more future possibilities, not only one, even the time is predetermined.

    This may sounds as a paradox, but there is many paradoxal phenomena in the world.

    Imagine that the time is like a train track; the past time is where the train have been driving, the time now is where the train is now, and the future is the track in front of the train.
    So now, imagine that there is one track to left called A, and one to right called B. There is hence 50 % possibility that the train take left, and 50 % possibility that the train take right.
    The left and right is 2 different future possibilities, so what is predetermined is that the time goes either to A or B, and the potencial to A and B.

    Scientists don’t agree with each other how the time works. Some thinks it goes on the only one and same track, while others agree more with Einstein,- that the time is relative, and that the speed of time in example, is very dependent on gravity.

    I don’t think that it’s possible to travel back or forward in time, but I don’t see any reason that it can’t be possibly that the time goes to one of 2 predetermined futures, as long as the time has the same speed or dimension than if the train track only had been forward, with one and only possibility.
    Hence I believe that precog dreams really may be the future reality, but that it’s still a other future possibility.
    Then, precog dreams is about the future, but a precog dreamer will still not be able to know if it is the possibility in the dream or the other that will happen.

    I think no one have proved that the time isn’t a system as above...

    I am looking forward to your viewpoints about this.

    1) Do you think that a predetirmined time still may have different possibilities?

    2) Do you believe in precog dreams?
     
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  3. Aug 27, 2004 #2
    I get your point, and even I'm no expert myself, I believe you have some inaccurate conceptions (such as "Scientists don’t agree with each other how the time works. Some thinks it goes on the only one and same track, while others agree more with Einstein,- that the time is relative, and that the speed of time in example, is very dependent on gravity")

    One statement has nothing to do with the other. All scientists agree that the "speed of time" is relative and affected by gravity. A completely different question is if events follow a unique track (the future is determined) or they have many possible tracks (the future is open).
    On this last question indeed there is no consensus.

    If you surf a bit around the Relativity forum you will find a lot to learn, yet be aware that many non-scientist users (including myself) write a lot of mistaken opinions !

    I believe most scientists adhere to the view that the future is not determined, Quantum Theory seems to point in that way.

    There's also the multiverse or "many worlds" theory, which copes with the problem by saying that all possible tracks exist as branching parallel universes, yet we can not predict which branch we will follow. At each branching a copy of ourselves follows the other track and lives a different story.
     
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