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News Presidential Candidates 2008

  1. Nov 10, 2006 #1

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    McCain to launch 2008 exploratory panel
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061110/ap_on_el_pr/mccain2008 [Broken]
    Hmmm. http://www.straighttalkamerica.com/ Hmmmm.


    Anyway, this announcement comes days after:

    Iowa Democrat jumps in presidential race
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061109/pl_nm/usa_elections_vilsack_dc_1 [Broken]
    But everyone is waiting for Hillary to step into the ring. :rolleyes:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/midterms2006/story/0,,1942920,00.html
     
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  3. Nov 12, 2006 #2

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    Well, it's not yet Thanksgiving and the national elections (2006) just finished less than 5 days ago - and already politicians are lining up for the Presidential Nomination in 2008 - 103 weeks away. Ugh! ::)

    So the governor of Iowa, Democract Tom Vilsack, has already announced his candidacy on Friday, Nov 10 -
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061110/ap_on_el_pr/democrats2008_5 [Broken]

    Now -
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061112/ap_on_el_pr/white_house2008 [Broken]

    It's not even Christmas yet! We've still got 6 weeks left in 2006. What's the rush?

    Are they afraid the country is going somewhere between now and then?

    Give us a break!

    There should be a two month moratorium on campaigns after each national election, where any politician who mentions the word is automatically disqualified for two years. Do you think they could keep their mouths under control?
     
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  4. Nov 12, 2006 #3

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    It is emblematic of the problem we have with our elections being dominated by big money interests. The candidate who "shops around" for support and declares early locks in campaign money that helps him/her and at the same time reduces the chance that opponents will get donations as large from those same sources. Our government will continue to be sold to the highest bidder unless we ban non-personal contributions and place severe caps on those, so the middle-class doesn't get locked out of the process. I would prefer publicly-financed campaigns, but leadership of both of the major parties feel that would reduce their clout with the candidates, and they will fight it tooth and nail. Currently, party leaders have control of vast pools of campaign money to swing to favored candidates, so that is one VERY big stick.
     
  5. Dec 27, 2006 #4

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/27/us/politics/27edwards.html

    Biden Opposes a Troop Increase in Iraq, Foreshadowing a Fight With the Bush Administration
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/27/washington/27diplo.html
    Biden Plots His Own Plan for Iraq Troop Levels
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6684823

    Some call for more troops, and others reject that idea. It seem more troops are necessary for control and stability, but the risk is inflaming the negative feelings on part of the Iraqis who resent the US occupation.
     
  6. Dec 27, 2006 #5

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    It doesn't bother anybody that Edwards and Romney have won a single election each? Or that Clinton and Obama each only have two wins?

    Normal experience levels for 20th century presidents is around 5 elections.

    Then again, Bush only had two elections to his credit before 2000, so experience isn't essential.

    And there are other exceptions:

    We've had three generals whose first election was a presidential election that they won. Not only was Zachary Taylor's run for President the first political office he ever ran for, it was the first election he ever voted in. (Eisenhower and Grant were the other two generals in their first election ever).

    William Taft spent virtually his entire political career in appointed positions, so his first election was a presidential election even though he had over 20 years experience in government.

    Herbert Hoover's first election was the 1928 presidential election. He was an engineer that wound up directing a lot of successful government projects and his response to the 1927 Mississippi River flood gave him a reputation similar to Giuliani's.

    Woodrow Wilson spent most of his life as an academic writing about American government. In fact, at one point he was an advocate for dissolving the Constitution and going to a parliamentary form of government. His presidential election was his second election.
     
  7. Feb 10, 2007 #6

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    Sen. Obama Launches White House Bid
    But would things change?

    Obama Enters 2008 Presidential Race
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7341115
    Apparently Obama has lined up a lot of cash already - from the standard lobbying and contributing groups!

    Obama Already Plugged into Political Money Machine
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7338511
    Interesting times ahead.
     
  8. Feb 10, 2007 #7
    There are a lot of Presidential Candidates trying to challenge the status quo. Wonder who will fail.
     
  9. Feb 11, 2007 #8

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    I used to like McCain but he has turned completely wishy-washy. He now courts the extreme religious groups that he once denounced.

    For me, that pretty much does it for the Repulicans.
     
  10. Feb 11, 2007 #9

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    Stop Him Before He Gets More Experience :rofl:

    Commentary by Frank Rich, NY Times, OP-Ed, Feb 11, 2007

    Say what?! :rolleyes:

    Hmmm.

    Are we in trouble or what?
     
  11. Mar 4, 2007 #10

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    Some Arizona Republicans Work Against McCain
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7667067
    Conservatives Focus Their Energies on 2008
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7703371
    GOP Candidates Make Rounds at Convention
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7706146

    Meanwhile, down south -

    Dem Powerhouses Mark Selma's Bloody Sunday
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7706143
    Obama Gains Momentum as Selma Date Nears
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7692211
     
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  12. Mar 6, 2007 #11
    I think Romney has too much baggage. Mormons are still considered cultists by too many. I know many, some, including a number of the scientists who contributed to my education, are level headed, community spirited, and just plain likeable, good folk. Others are nuts. I suppose the same could be said of catholics, baptists, jewish, or even those of muslim leanings. But I suspect Giuliana will take the lead here soon. I'll watch and wistfully send Dennis 10 bucks if he promises to stay out of it on the demo side.
     
  13. Mar 7, 2007 #12

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  14. Mar 7, 2007 #13

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    New person, same old story.
     
  15. Mar 7, 2007 #14
    i can not STAND hillary clintoon. she is the biggest phony in the world. if it comes down to hillary vs. mccain, i would vote for mccain in a heartbeat. obama is wayyyyyyyyy better than hillary clintoon. at least mccain is a somewhat moderate.



    bush, clinton, bush, clinton?

    according to the laws of our forefathers anyone can become president right???????


    yeah right LOL
     
  16. Mar 7, 2007 #15
    Any fondness fro Hillary evaporated when she supported the Israel fence building last year. A 3 digit IQ would be welcome in the white house after 8 yrs of bush, and she has smarts no doubt of that, just no charisma--maybe why she married Bill.
     
  17. Mar 8, 2007 #16

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    Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Mitt Romney - I think are listed in order of likelihood of getting the nomination for Republican candidate. Giuliani has the aura of being the mayor of NYCity who took the helm when the WTC was attacked. I think McCain has alienated some/many social conservatives.


    It will be interesting to see who leads the Democrat nomination - Obama or Clinton. I think Clinton has a lot of baggage, but she has a strong core of support.
     
  18. Mar 9, 2007 #17

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    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/4617595.html [Broken]

    It seems that the religious right is hoping to reclaim ground using their former champion.

    Good choice. Stick with that one.
     
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  19. Mar 9, 2007 #18

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    Well, I am activating my Sub-Etha Sesomatic thumb, and I have my towel with me at all times. If I'm lucky, I won't be around during 2008, and preferably will be a long way away where the EM radiation from earth will never reach. :grumpy:
     
  20. Mar 10, 2007 #19
    Thats why i'm betting on Giuliani--calm, bold leader who made the right moves at the right time--never mind the facts, tuff on blood sucking unions, almost as good as bringing reagan back from the dead. McCain will die of flip-flop, and while the country might elect a woman, or even a black, don't see a Mormon in the near future.
    I don't know where that gadgt will take you, but if Giuliani or McCain win, I'm taking an extended vacation in the southern hem.
     
  21. Mar 10, 2007 #20
    To be honest, there are plenty of candidates but no leaders. There is absolutely noone that I could stand behind right now. Noone that inspires me, or maybe I'm just getting old and tired of the same political game...
     
  22. Mar 12, 2007 #21
    Agreed. The only exception I know of is Dennis Kucnovich whose notions about things still inspire hope. Sadly there is a multivariant calculus at work that keeps anyone whose view is off the main by more than a few degrees, even if it is as often right vs left that guarentees more of the lackluster same. People wnat McDonalds. This month the Big mac with tobasco, next month with avocado. Still an almost flavorless Bigmac.
     
  23. Mar 13, 2007 #22

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    Interesting this comment is. I heard a similar comment yesterday from the guy from whom I bought a new set of tires.

    How is it that the US is in this situation? How do we end up with a slate of candidates who lack the leadership qualities, which inspire/instill a sense of confidence? How or why do we settle for such mediocrity, or less?

    G.O.P. Voters Voice Anxieties on Party’s Fate
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/13/us/politics/13poll.html

     
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  24. Mar 13, 2007 #23

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    Our government is held hostage by an entrenched 2-party system that is corrupt and is dedicated to preserving the status quo for their wealthy backers. The difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is no greater than the difference between Coke and Pepsi, or Time and Newsweek. This system guarantees that real independent-thinking, caring leaders are marginalized. We need some progressive populist leaders in this country to turn things around, improve access to health care and education and reverse the ever-widening gap between the wealthy the wage-earners. It will not happen until we force election reforms and reduce the influence of the two major parties by drying up their flow of donations.
     
  25. Mar 16, 2007 #24

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    Red State Update: Who's Running For President Now?


    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
     
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  26. Mar 16, 2007 #25

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