# Presidential Debate #3

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Here we are at last - the end of a very, very, very long road. I do believe this is debate #22 for Obama; don't know about McCain.

There has been a good bit of punditry about Obama baiting McCain to attack him. I heard one report that McCain had responded; saying that he would kick his a. Meanwhile, the Republican strategists seem to be split as to whether McCain should or should not go negative.

This may well be do or die time for McCain. If we are going to see fireworks, it should be tonight. But the face-to-face format does not lend itself to blind attacks.

Will we see fireworks, or just more stale bread?

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turbo
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I'm expecting McCain to blow up tonight. He is flailing and increasingly desperate while Obama keeps his cool. That speaks volumes about their potential values to the US in volatile situations. If McCain comes off as nasty, negative and dismissive as the ads he's running in Maine, he's going to turn off a bunch of fence-sitters who want an adult in the WH for a change.

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If I was a man of great desire
I would require death by fire.

Gokul43201
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I'm expecting McCain to blow up tonight. He is flailing and increasingly desperate while Obama keeps his cool. That speaks volumes about their potential values to the US in volatile situations. If McCain comes off as nasty, negative and dismissive as the ads he's running in Maine, he's going to turn off a bunch of fence-sitters who want an adult in the WH for a change.
Recall the ABC Dem debate when Hillary got to attack Obama about Wright and Ayers? That was, reportedly, a huge win for her. Why should McCain doing the same not get him a big win too?

GCT
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He is stupid and he is old , I expect to witness him at his sad deluded form tonight , Obama needs to bring a weapon in case McCain goes insane. Crazy McCain. I commend Obama for not being paranoid about McCain's mental stability or any of McCain's disciple's going after Obama during the debates.

He is stupid and he is old , I expect to witness him at his sad deluded form tonight , Obama needs to bring a weapon in case McCain goes insane. Crazy McCain. I commend Obama for not being paranoid about McCain's mental stability or any of McCain's disciple's going after Obama during the debates.
:rofl:

LowlyPion
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Recall the ABC Dem debate when Hillary got to attack Obama about Wright and Ayers? That was, reportedly, a huge win for her. Why should McCain doing the same not get him a big win too?
Because it's old news. And the public is anxious about the state of the economy and the deterioration in the market again today.

Ultimately I think McCain realizes he has already lost and will choose not soil his legacy and choose instead to be a runner-up with dignity with some thought to heal the wounds opened by the campaigns.

After that optimistic projection now watch as he lunges across the table at Obama's throat.
(Talk about a Secret Service nightmare.)

Evo
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I read that McCain doesn't intend to bring Wright up tonight, saying that it's more likely to hurt him on racial issues.

ZapperZ
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I'll be seeing Kathy Griffin live during the last presidential debate tonight. I fully expect to be laughing my rear end off! So someone will have to condense what I missed in 20 words or less.

:)

Zz.

Why was his association with Wright relevant to begin with? It's not like Obama endorsed any of his crazy theories. I wish the public would focus more on what's relevant.

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I fully expect to be laughing my rear end off!
We hope to be doing the same.

Astronuc
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I read that McCain doesn't intend to bring Wright up tonight, saying that it's more likely to hurt him on racial issues.
The negative campaigning hurt McCain across the board apparently. It would seem voters for both parties and in between want to hear about issues and actions - not negative campaign adds.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/15/us/politics/15poll.html
The McCain campaign’s recent angry tone and sharply personal attacks on Senator Barack Obama appear to have backfired and tarnished Senator John McCain more than their intended target, the latest New York Times/CBS News poll has found.

After several weeks in which the McCain campaign unleashed a series of strong political attacks on Mr. Obama, trying to tie him to a former 1960s radical, among other things, the poll found that more voters see Mr. McCain as waging a negative campaign than Mr. Obama. Six in 10 voters surveyed said that Mr. McCain had spent more time attacking Mr. Obama than explaining what he would do as president; by about the same number, voters said Mr. Obama was spending more of his time explaining than attacking.

. . . .
I would hope the country has turned a corner in the political discussion.

Evo
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Okay, McCin has gone down the tubes with "joe plumber". More than half the nation is probaby thinking to themselves how nice it must be to be able to buy their own business and feel no sympathy for him whining about not getting a tax cut. McCain is simply out of touch.

Mccain is losing it. The more he keeps talking, the deeper the hole gets.

Oh spare me the fake tears Mccain.

"Oh please Obama, please tell the public that those accusations are false."

Pyrrhus
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Is this a debate about issues or feelings?

Lose with dignity McCain...

I swear Mccain is ready to break down and cry.

lisab
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Obama just brought up the vile comments being shouted at Palin's rallies...

McCain's eyes are darting and he's looking like he's going to explode!

Mccain: I have stood up for you Obama. *weeping* And I don't like those t-shirts at your rallys. *weeping*

mathwonk
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"all the polls show that senator mccains ads are 100% negative and that 2/3 of the america people think so, compared to only 1/3 who think that of mine."

"oh yeah! you are so full of 8888/// and your mama wears combat boots! how can you aCCUSE ME OF NEGativity!!!???>"

do we have to listen this **** to make up our minds?

i agree with those here who say mccain is losing it. his argument that he is not the most negative campaigner is itself so negative it gives the lie to his claims to all but the most biased observer.

Obama is owning Mccain. This is the nail in the coffin. I'll be shocked now if Obama loses this election, shocked.

Pyrrhus
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Obama is owning Mccain. This is the nail in the coffin. I'll be shocked now if Obama loses this election, shocked.
Depends. Jeb Bush still in Florida? :rofl:

Astronuc
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McCain finally brought up Ayers and Acorn. McCain overexaggerated the matter about Acorn.

Obama responded to it splendidly to McCain's issues about Ayers and Acorn.

Touché

And McCain is now making up stuff about Ayers and Acorn.

I know Karl Rove is a good strategist, but christ does Rove even realize that the strategies he used for Bush is not applicable in 2008?

Astronuc
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