What is the issue with this electrostatics problem?

In summary, the conversation discusses setting a general function for the electric field at any point in the xy plane, using Coulomb's law and accounting for point charges with different charges and distances from the origin. It is noted that the resulting 2D function will not be divergence free, but adding in the z-component of the electric field would make it so except at the locations of the charges. The accuracy of drawing lines of flux in a 2D representation of a 3D case is also mentioned.
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Homework Statement


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I'm suppose to set a general function of the electric field, at any point in the xy plane. As the picture shows, there are 2 point charges with 1 charge, and 1 point charge with -3 charge. Each of them are equally distanced from the origin, and all 3 are evenly spaced apart.

Homework Equations


I'm used Coulumbs law
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The Attempt at a Solution


First I defined all the point charge locations, along with an arbitrary point, to represent the unknown point of the function.
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Then I merely use Coumlumbs law, to add up all the expressions:
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The final expression isn't pretty at all though:
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The field as displayed by maple (if one fixes the fieldstrength, otherwise some arrows become very very small) looks like this:
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Which to me looks about right. However the vector function isn't divergence free, which suggests I have messed up something. What am I doing wrong?
 

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The two dimensional function will not be divergence free, but if you included the z-component of the electric field, it would then be divergence free except at the locations of the electrical charges. ## \\ ## I didn't carefully check your equations, but they seem to be correct.
 
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Charles Link said:
The two dimensional function will not be divergence free, but if you included the z-component of the electric field, it would then be divergence free except at the locations of the electrical charges. ## \\ ## I didn't carefully check your equations, but they seem to be correct.

Ahh alright then. Thanks a bunch! :)
 
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NicolaiTheDane said:
Ahh alright then. Thanks a bunch! :)
What is also the case is that when you draw lines of flux for a 3-D case in two dimensions, the result is inherent inaccuracies where the density of lines doesn't fall off as inverse square, etc. The line density will be ## \frac{1}{r} ## in a 2-D diagram of a 3 dimensional case if they are drawn as continuous lines.
 
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And an addition to post 2: You can see this with a single point charge: If you let ## E=\frac{Q}{4 \pi \epsilon_o}(\frac{x}{(x^2+y^2)^{3/2}} \hat{i} +\frac{y}{(x^2+y^2)^{3/2}} \hat{j}) ##, the divergence is non-zero everywhere, but if you write it as ## E=\frac{Q}{4 \pi \epsilon_o}(\frac{x}{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^{3/2}} \hat{i}+\frac{y}{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^{3/2}} \hat{j}+\frac{z}{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^{3/2}} \hat{k} ) ## and compute ## \nabla \cdot E ##, you will find it is indeed zero everywhere except at ## (0,0,0) ##.
 

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