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Prometheus (WARNING: SPOILERS)

  1. Jun 2, 2012 #1
    Saw this film earlier this evening and I'm confused. There's a few things I can't get my head around, perhaps somebody could explain.

    Also, don't read any further if you haven't seen the film.

    What is that stuff the engineer drinks and why does he drink it? I get that it's to create life but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

    Where do all these different xenomorph's come from. The 'facehuggers' obviously come from the worms. That big tentacled thing comes from the offspring of humans and the alien comes from the engineer. In the original Alien the alien creature comes from a human, you see the confusion.

    Also, what was it that attacked the engineers, where did it come from and where did it go?
     
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  3. Jun 2, 2012 #2
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    I thought this movie came out next week??

    Man I need to get to the theater!
     
  4. Jun 2, 2012 #3
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    Hollywood releases films abroad before the US.
     
  5. Jun 2, 2012 #4
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    I am really looking forward to seeing this movie.

    And am definitely not looking at those spoilers!
     
  6. Jun 2, 2012 #5
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    Me too!

    I think you can view them without spoiling the movie for yourself. They're just questions about certain details, prior knowledge of which might actually contribute to your enjoyment of the movie.

    If you've seen the trailers and read some of the commentary, then you're probably already aware of what will be revealed to you (in viewing it) as the movie's basic premise. Being aware of some details in advance sometimes enhances one's enjoyment of films like this (a large part of which, imo, is the cgi spectacle).

    Apparently, the events in Prometheus are occuring long before the events in Alien. The planet that the human spacecraft Prometheus lands on is not the same planet that Nostromo landed on. The alien spacecraft in Prometheus isn't the same alien spacecraft in Alien. And the 'space jockey' in Prometheus (the apparent pilot of the alien spacecraft) isn't the same 'space jockey' as in Alien.

    But the 'space jockey' alien race, and their goal(s), is the key to the conflict in the plot of Prometheus.
     
  7. Jun 3, 2012 #6
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    I am can't wait to see this movie! It's already out?
     
  8. Jun 3, 2012 #7

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    It's been out in Australia for several days.

    From the trailers, I was really looking forward to seeing it next weekend - that is, until I just saw it got 2 out of 5 stars from reviewers I consider reliable.
     
  9. Jun 3, 2012 #8
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    I've heard not good things about it.
     
  10. Jun 3, 2012 #9
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    Besides leaving a lot of questions unanswered it's actually a great film. Some of the dialogue is slightly weak but believe me it is definitely worth watching.

    Actually I would consider it one of the better science fiction films I have seen in recent years.
     
  11. Jun 3, 2012 #10
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    Rumor has it it is this film that potentially ruins 'At the Mountains of Madness' from coming to the screen, we shall see.
     
  12. Jun 4, 2012 #11
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    It's got an 8.1 at IMBD so far.
     
  13. Jun 5, 2012 #12
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    I watched a pirated Russian version. Fantastic visual spectacle. Lots of cool action. Can't wait to see it on the big screen. In English. It will be well worth 10 to 12 bucks imo. Bring your own snacks.
     
  14. Jun 5, 2012 #13

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    I saw it last week, very good (even though most people can't act and the technobabble is a bit on the weird side). As to the questions:
    As far as I could make out it was something that was meant to break him up into a primordial soup. Why he had to commit suicide rather than just dump a bunch of chemicals and bacteria (or even just dump a dead body) is one of those plot devices meant to add drama and perhaps make these blue guys seem more badass.

    What really confused me is exactly what he was trying to achieve vs what was actually achieved. It's implied that he is on a primordial Earth and that by dissolving himself into an ancient sea he created life on Earth. But then it doesn't make any sense that humans then just happened to evolve half a billion years later and that is what they wanted originally (this makes doubly less sense when they say that humans and these aliens have identical DNA when clearly they are very different and like the one biologist points out how the hell does that square with all the evidence, particularly genetic, for evolution on Earth?). It would have made far more sense and been a better plot piece IMO if they had taken the 2001: Space Odyssey approach and had one of these aliens approach a group of ancient primates and tinker with them.
    Perhaps I missed something but I didn't hear anyone refer to them as "xenomorphs". As has been said above this isn't really a direct prequel to alien, we're not even sure if this is the same planet as found at the start of Alien (largely it wouldn't make sense that it was because in Alien and Aliens the various companies on Earth no nothing about it).

    As to what the aliens are and how they link to others one of the characters guesses that the planet is a military research centre for developing biological weapons. From that perspective there could be other planets where the more conventional aliens can be found or they could be on other parts of this planet.
    I thought it was a given that some of these experiments got out of hand and turned on the engineers. A stranger plot point is why the aliens in the ship went into stasis rather than leaving.
     
  15. Jun 5, 2012 #14

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    Is Sir Ridley Scott going senile???

    Mod note: Threads merged. Ryan_m_b

    How COULD he lend his name to the dreadful Prometheus movie??

    I saw it tonight, and we were NOT amused. :mad:
     
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  16. Jun 5, 2012 #15
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    Really? I thought it was great ... and I've only seen it dubbed in Russian, which I'm not fluent in. :smile:
     
  17. Jun 5, 2012 #16

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    Re: Is Sir Ridley Scott going senile???

    Hmm..let's see, for STARTERS:
    1. What was the relevance of the opening scene and the portentious drinking from a cup? No eplanation was given.

    2. What was the relevance of Daddy Shaw dying from the Ebola virus?? OR Dr. Shaw's childhood memories in general?

    3. Why did the android infect Dr. Holloway with some blood drop?

    4. How, and on what basis, did the captain suddenly realize that everything was a military installation and factory for producing biological weapons?

    5. How did a tiny tentacle creep, securely locked in a room without access to food suddenly grow into gargantuan proportions??

    6. Why did a military installation "hide" a space ship beneath a big mound shaped like a head?? Why not just as some unobstrusive boulder?

    7. How did the geologist become imbued with superman powers after infection, while the biologist just died?? Why didn't Holloway develop superman powers?

    8. Didn't Prometheus even have metal detectors to find out that the whole ground was a huge launching pad, or something??
     
  18. Jun 5, 2012 #17
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    Hellooo? Spoiler alert!
     
  19. Jun 5, 2012 #18

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    Indeed! Thus, you need not see this multiply used diaper of a movie. :approve:
     
  20. Jun 5, 2012 #19
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    I actually stopped reading after 'for starters' when my brain realized you were going to provide a list of details. Luckily, I can still watch the movie and (likely) enjoy it. :smile:
     
  21. Jun 5, 2012 #20

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    Re: Is Sir Ridley Scott going senile???

    And,
    9. How the heck can a self-medicated sedative used during vivesection&operation suddenly turn into an energizer of Dr. Shaw's body??

    There she was, running happily about, only minutes after having sawed out a tentacle thing from her abdomen...
     
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