Proof of Conservative Force

In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove that a central force, which acts along the vector connecting the centers of two objects and depends only on the distance between them, is a conservative force. The person is attempting to solve this problem using cartesian coordinates and is struggling to find a solution.
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Homework Statement


Show that a central force between two objects, ie. one that acts along the vector connecting their centres, r[tex]^{[tex]\Downarrow[/tex]}[/tex],with a strength that depends on only r, is a conservative force. I am supposed to do this in cartesian coordinates and show that the work is zero or that the work only depends on the endpoints.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I know that F=F(r)r, and that W = [tex]\int[/tex]F. dr from A to A = 0. I tried breaking it into x,y,z components because of the cartesian hint, but I don't know what to do from there.
 
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I would approach this problem by first defining what a conservative force is. A conservative force is one that does not depend on the path taken by an object, but only on the initial and final positions of the object. In other words, the work done by a conservative force is independent of the path taken by the object and only depends on the endpoints.

Now, let's consider a central force between two objects, where the force acts along the vector connecting their centers, r. Since the force is central, it can be expressed as F(r)r, where F(r) is the strength of the force and r is the unit vector in the direction of the force.

To show that this central force is conservative, we need to show that the work done by the force is independent of the path taken by the object and only depends on the endpoints. Let's consider two points, A and B, with position vectors rA and rB, respectively. The work done by the central force from A to B can be expressed as:

W = ∫F(r)r.dr from A to B

Since the force is central, we can express r in terms of the x, y, and z components as r = xi + yj + zk. Therefore, we can rewrite the above equation as:

W = ∫F(r)(xi + yj + zk).d(xi + yj + zk) from A to B

Expanding the dot product and using the chain rule, we get:

W = ∫(xFx + yFy + zFz)dx + (xFy + yFx)dy + (xFz + zFx)dz from A to B

Since the force only depends on r, we can rewrite Fx, Fy, and Fz as Fx(r), Fy(r), and Fz(r), respectively. Therefore, the above equation becomes:

W = ∫(xFx(r) + yFy(r) + zFz(r))dx + (xFy(r) + yFx(r))dy + (xFz(r) + zFx(r))dz from A to B

Now, since we are integrating from A to B, we can express dx, dy, and dz in terms of dr as dx = x'dr, dy = y'dr, and dz = z'dr, where x', y', and z' are the components of the unit vector
 

What is a conservative force?

A conservative force is a type of force that depends only on the initial and final positions of an object, and not on the path taken by the object. This means that the work done by a conservative force is independent of the path and only depends on the starting and ending points of the object. Examples of conservative forces include gravity and electrostatic forces.

What is the difference between a conservative and non-conservative force?

The main difference between conservative and non-conservative forces is that the work done by a conservative force is independent of the path taken by an object, while the work done by a non-conservative force depends on the path taken. Another key difference is that conservative forces have a potential energy associated with them, while non-conservative forces do not.

How is proof of conservative force determined?

The proof of conservative force is determined by calculating the line integral of the force along a closed loop. If the line integral is equal to zero, then the force is conservative. This means that the work done by the force is the same regardless of the path taken.

What are some real-life examples of conservative forces?

Gravity is a commonly observed conservative force in everyday life. When an object is lifted to a certain height and then released, it will always fall back to its original position, regardless of the path taken. Another example is an object sliding down a frictionless hill - the work done by gravity will be the same regardless of the path taken by the object.

Why is understanding conservative forces important?

Understanding conservative forces is important in many fields, including physics, engineering, and even economics. It allows us to accurately predict the behavior of objects and systems, and can also help us design more efficient and stable structures and machines. Additionally, the concept of conservative forces is closely related to the conservation of energy, which is a fundamental principle in physics.

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