Does a Smallest Real Number Exist for a Given Real Number?

In summary, the conversation discusses the existence of a smallest positive real number. It is proven that there exists no smallest positive real number, even when considering rational numbers. Additionally, it is shown that there does not exist a smallest real number in relation to another real number. This can be further simplified using the result from the first part of the conversation.
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Homework Statement


(1) Prove that there exists no smallest positive real number. (2) Does there exist a
smallest positive rational number? (3) Given a real number x, does there exist a
smallest real number y > x?

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The Attempt at a Solution


(1) Suppose that ##a## is the smallest real number. Define ##b = \frac{a}{2}##. Then ##0<b<a##, which is a contradiction. Hence, there exists no smallest positive real number.
(2) Since the rationals are a subfield of the reals, the argument above applies here as well.
(3) Let ##x## be an arbitrary positive real number. Suppose that ##y## is the smallest real number such that ##y>x##. Define ##z = x + \frac{y-x}{2}##. Then we have the chain that ##x < z < y##. ##x < z## because ##x < x + \frac{y-x}{2} \rightarrow y > x##, which was assumed to be true, and likewise ##z< y \rightarrow y > x##, which was assumed to be true. In the case that y < x < 0, then just define ##z = -x - \frac{y-x}{2}## and the same result follows. Hence, there does not exist a smallest real number in relation to another real number.
 
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(3) could be made shorter by using the result from (1). Just show that if y is the smallest real number > x then (y-x) is the smallest positive real number.
 
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1. What is the definition of a real number?

A real number is a number that can be represented on a number line and includes both rational and irrational numbers.

2. How do you prove the closure property of real numbers?

The closure property states that the sum or product of two real numbers is also a real number. This can be proved by using the definition of real numbers and the properties of addition and multiplication.

3. What is the difference between a rational and irrational number?

A rational number is a number that can be expressed as a ratio of two integers, while an irrational number cannot be expressed as a ratio and has an infinite number of non-repeating decimal places.

4. How do you prove the density property of real numbers?

The density property states that between any two real numbers, there exists another real number. This can be proved by using the Archimedean property and the fact that real numbers can be infinitely divided into smaller intervals.

5. Can you use induction to prove statements involving real numbers?

Yes, induction can be used to prove statements involving real numbers as long as the statement can be expressed as a sequence or series.

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