Proofs of a God or no God are pretty much useless? I sometimes find myself staring at the absurdity of looking for a proof for the existence of a God, or the proof for the non-existence of one. My logic is pretty simple, say if we say that a orderly universe implies existence of a God, but somehow QM contradicts all that. I think its quite futile, God, I believe is a God of both order and chaos. even if our finite mind can't fanthom how such 2 contradictory entities can co-exist, I believe a mind in a much higher plane can. So, I don't think its very fruitful to convince anybody of the existence or non-existence of a God. God encompasses infinity, he/she/it compassess everything. Order is part of the framework of "everything" and so is randomness, good as well as evil. Is my logic flawed around here? even though it goes against the grain of much judeo-christian beliefs.