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Homework Help: Proving Solutions are Unique?

  1. Sep 5, 2012 #1


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    I found the solutions a = 2, b = 0, c = 0, d = 3 to this system of equations...

    ab + c + d = 3
    bc + d + a = 5
    cd + a + b = 2
    da + b + c = 6

    But I don't know how to justify that those are the only solutions to this system, since it is non-linear. How can I prove that those are the only solutions? (Note: I'm not sure if those ARE the only solutions -- I just can't find any more.)

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  3. Sep 5, 2012 #2

    Ray Vickson

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    The solution is unique, and you have found it. However, justifying this involves tools way beyond pre-calculus algebra. In particular, I used the Groebner package in Maple 11 to compute a Groebner basis of the system, and here is what I got:
    G:={a*b+c+d-3,b*c+d+a-5,c*d+a+b-2,d*a+b+c-6}; <--- these should = 0 at your solution
    B := [d - 3, c, b, a - 2] <--- this system is equivalent to G

    In words: the elements of B are a basis for the ideal generated by G; that is, any multivariate polynomial of the form P = A(a,b,c,d)*(a*b+c+d-3) + B(a,b,c,d)*(b*c+d+a-5) + etc, with multivariate polynomial coefficients A, B, ... can be written as a linear combination of (d-3), c, b and (a-2), also with multivariate polynomial coefficients. So, if all elements of G = 0 (which is your system of equations) then each element of B is also zero, and vice-versa. Therefore, your equations necessarily imply d-3=0, c=0, b=0, a-2=0.

    Note: Maple (or Mathematica, for example) use Buchberger's Algorithm to compute a Groebner basis.

  4. Sep 6, 2012 #3


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    Thanks for the reply and confirming that this is the only solution. This particular problem was taken from the British Mathematical Olympiad, Round 1 (2003). Is this the only way to prove that this solution is unique? I won't have access to Maple/Mathematica in the exam, or a calculator. I've been told that if I find a solution, I have to make a convincing argument for why it is the only solution -- is it plausible to use Buchberger's algorithm by hand? (It is a 3 and a half hour paper with 6 questions.)

    I just noticed that my solution is 2,0,0,3 -- the year the paper was taken from. Hmm, I did not notice that.
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