Why does 2T-(M+m)g=(M+m)a not work here?

In summary, the force P required for a man to pull on a rope and achieve an acceleration of a m/s2 is (m+M)(a+g) and not (m+M)(a+g)/2. This is because when the man pulls the rope, an equal and opposite force is exerted on the platform. The platform also has an equal and opposite normal force, which is why a greater force is needed to accelerate the combined mass of the man and platform. The tension of the rope on the other side also contributes to the total force, making it double the original force. This is why the equation on the left is 2P.
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Can someone explain why the force P with which the man must pull on the rope to achieve an acceleration a m/s2 IS NOT (m+M)(a+g)/2 and is instead (m+M)(a+g). M+m is the combined mass of man and platform.

Why does 2T-(M+m)g=(M+m)a not work here?
 

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when he pulls the rope, an equal and opposite force is exerted on the platform.
 
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Thanks for the response. But doesn't the platform have an equal and opposite normal force?
 
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Exactly why greater force is required to accelerate the mass of the man + platform.

2P=(m+M)(g+a)+P
 
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but doesn't the tension of the rope on the other side contribute just as much as the man therefore doubling the total force upwards?
 
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Yes, and that is the only reason he can lift himself. This is why the left is 2P.
 

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