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Purpose of life?

  1. Sep 26, 2004 #1
    I wanted to know what the scientist believe, is the reason for human life?

    even if it is not confirmed by evidence just tell me the theory.

    Thnx in advance
     
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  3. Sep 26, 2004 #2
    When i was in school, i took eight philosophy classes besides the subfields of mathematics and physics. Ah! you seek consensus ! Whack on the head with ruler !
     
  4. Sep 26, 2004 #3

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    This question is not addressed by science.
     
  5. Sep 26, 2004 #4

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    Asking for a reason is like asking a 'why' question, and 'why' questions generally have two senses in which they can be interpretted: 'How is it that' and 'for what purpose.'

    Science answers the question 'how is it that there is human life?' by explaining how humans evolved from apes as a result of natural selection. However, science does not answer the question 'for what purpose is there human life?'
     
  6. Sep 26, 2004 #5

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    Isn't it preferable to say, "Man and Ape decended from a common ancestor which was neither man nor ape"?
     
  7. Sep 26, 2004 #6
    Wouldn't be fair to say, that the reason for human life is survival and evolution? From the sciencist point of view of course. Theological perspectives are much different.
     
  8. Sep 26, 2004 #7

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    Yes, probably (depending on the technical definition of ape and the empirical details in the fossil record, neither of which I am an expert on); sorry about that.
     
  9. Sep 26, 2004 #8

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    This gets into finer shades of the meaning of the word 'purpose.'

    If one interprets the statement "X's purpose is Y" to mean that Y is the end towards which X tends, then it is unproblematic to say that the purpose of life is ultimately to propogate 'fit' genes, because that is quite demonstrably the end towards which life tends. But this relatively neutral interpretation doesn't quite seem to capture our notion of the word. For instance, statements like "The purpose of large cosmic bodies is to be approximately spherical" and "The purpose of a series of coin flips is for the frequencies of heads and tails to be approximately equal" sound like odd ways indeed to use the word 'purpose.'

    What seems to be missing here is the notion of intention. We usually take "X's purpose is Y" not to mean just that X tends towards Y, but that X is intended to tend towards Y. "The bus's purpose is to transport the public" doesn't just mean that the bus tends to transport people around, but that the bus has been intentionally created in order to do so.

    It should be clear that science would not endorse the statement "the purpose of life is to propogate genes" if we understand this statement to be saying "life was intentionally created in order to propogate genes." There is no scientifically demonstrable entity to be doing the intentional creation; it amounts to a wrong-headed kind of anthropomorphication of nature. Nature has no intentions, just causal mechanisms. These causal mechanisms tend to support a process (evolution via natural selection) that very much looks like intentional design on the face of it, but which in fact is perfectly understandable even if we assume that the causal mechanisms are 'dumb' or 'blind,' i.e. have no intention.

    So basically, saying that life has any kind of purpose is not scientifically endorsable, unless we use an impoverished sense of the word.
     
  10. Sep 27, 2004 #9
    one word:appetite
     
  11. Sep 27, 2004 #10
    Do you sience people believe that the purpose of life is to explore the univers and its mysteries?

    Or was there no reason in the exitence of human race?
     
  12. Sep 27, 2004 #11

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    I dont believe the purpose of life was originally to explore the universe and its mysteries but to many of us that is what it has become. :)
     
  13. Oct 1, 2004 #12
    Life came from out of the Earth into the Seas. From there, Life took over Land. From there...

    We colonize, every species does. We'll take over the universe if we lived (our species) long enough (that is if this damn thing called 'reality' is finite.)

    Is that the purpose? Probably one of them. Once we colonize the universe, will that conclude our reason? Nope.
     
  14. Oct 1, 2004 #13
    purposing of life is prove our existantisy
     
  15. Oct 1, 2004 #14
    My take on this question is progression. The purpose of life is to progress. Everything in the universe progress. Wheather it be - or +, its still going from one state (mentally and or physically) to another. This is the one common characteristic I see in any entity in the universe, including the universe itself. Although on a personal level, the answer really depends on the one asking the question; their though process, their environment, ect, have a lot to do with how they precieve things. Asking this question to a monk compared with asking it to a serial killer, you'll probably get answers that differ. It's not so much a scientific question, as integral said, This question is not addressed by science. A satisfactory answer to this question can only be given by the one asking it. Thats why its philosophical, cause wheather you answer it or not, whatever your answer is, no one or nearly no one cares nor is it going to effect them in any way. Its not something you'll be able to write down on your to do list. So ponder. Regard this as either a ****load of **** or food for though.
     
  16. Oct 1, 2004 #15

    If I'm not mistaken I believe we have proved conclusively that humans did not evolve from apes.

    We believe that we may have a common ancestor, but I am fairly sure we have proven we did not evolve from apes. Its one of the great scientific lies that is perpetuated as truth throughout the scientific community.
     
  17. Oct 1, 2004 #16

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    I already retracted that statement to some extent, but in any case it's irrelevant to the thrust of my argument.
     
  18. Oct 1, 2004 #17

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    The common ancestor of chimps and humans lived around 6 million years ago. But if you were to see one, I'll bet you would call it an ape.
     
  19. Oct 1, 2004 #18

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    No, it's not. It is merely a nuanced usage of the word 'ape'.

    Perhaps the next biggest lie perpetuated as truth throughout the scientific community is that the earth is spherical ?

    And just to make the second point as certain as the first : it has been proven conclusively, that we share a common ancestor.
     
  20. Oct 1, 2004 #19
    To find the purpose of anything you must go the intent of the designer. If you can’t find out from the designer for one reason or another, afraid to ask or don’t care to ask, then you must look at the functions of the design. If you look at a lump of mud you will see very little function compared to a computer. From the function of the computer you are able to discern the intended purpose of the creator of the computer.

    To find a purpose for life you must do the same thing. You must look for the designer to ask the purpose or you need to look at the function of the creation to discern the purpose.

    If you use your free will and decide that there is no designer your chances of finding the real purpose of life are pretty slim because you are looking for purpose with out intent of a designer. You will of course try shaping the purpose to your intent and not that of the designer.

    If you accept the fact of a designer then you must again use your free will to work for or against the purpose of the designer. You may also try to substitute you purpose for that of the designer.

    If you do not make a choice you will most likely end up finding you purpose in life is that of someone else’s purpose. Our history indicates that this is usually not the purpose of the prime designer.
     
  21. Oct 2, 2004 #20
    the purpose of life?

    to live...to exist...

    as simple as that sounds, scientifically, i think thats all there is to it...
     
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