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PV diagram net work and heat

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Homework Statement



A sample of an ideal gas is taken through the thermodynamic cycle
shown on the P-V diagram at attached. Two of the “legs” of the cycle are
isobaric and the other two are isothermal.


a) Find the net work done by the gas along the high pressure isobaric
leg in terms of p0 and Vo.


b) Find the net work done by the gas in one complete cycle in terms of
p0 and Vo.

c) Find the net heat supplied to the gas in one cycle in terms of p0 and
Vo.



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The Attempt at a Solution



Part A)

W = integral fr v to 3v of Pdv = P(3v - v) = 2PV

Part B) Not sure if this is crrect do i just find the work for each leg of the of the cycle and then sum them up

Ill start with the high pressure isbaric leg and work around the cycle clockwise

Leg 1 = 2PV (Part a)

Leg 2 = not sure how to integrate this if i dont knw what the v final is.... i guess im doing this wrong
 

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Part B) Not sure if this is crrect do i just find the work for each leg of the of the cycle and then sum them up
Kind of, but you have to consider that sometimes the work is positive and sometimes it's negative. Remember that work is equal to the area enclosed by the PV curve and you can adjust your positives and negatives accordingly.

Leg 2 = not sure how to integrate this if i dont knw what the v final is.... i guess im doing this wrong
You do know what the final v is because PV=nRT, and if temperature is constant, then P=C/V.
 
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so to find the area, i woud add the first two integrals then subracts the second two.

for the second integral my book says fr a isothermal process W = nRT(ln V_B/V_A), so does that simplify to ln V_B/V_A because it is constant and nRT is essentially 1

for the third leg, the pressure does nt change but the volue does so it is nt constand, how do i find the v final fr this integral
 
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so to find the area, i woud add the first two integrals then subracts the second two.
Yes.

for the second integral my book says fr a isothermal process W = nRT(ln V_B/V_A), so does that simplify to ln V_B/V_A because it is constant and nRT is essentially 1
How do you know nRT is 1? nRT is equal to PV, and you know PV.

for the third leg, the pressure does nt change but the volue does so it is nt constand, how do i find the v final fr this integral
You're supposed to read it from the graph. It looks like 2Vo to me.
 
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of first off V_b is the secnd point in the cycle and V_c is the third point

W = nRT ln V_c/V_b = PV ln Vc/Vb

P(3V) = .5P(Vc) therefore Vc = 6V and Vb = 3V

W = PV ln Vc/Vb = PV ln 6V/3V = PV ln2
 

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