Pyramidal horn antenna vs. conical horn antenna

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the choice between pyramidal and conical horn antennas for transmitting electromagnetic wave frequencies. Participants explore the implications of different waveguide types and the characteristics of each antenna shape, focusing on their applications and polarization capabilities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the choice of horn antenna type may depend on the type of waveguide being used, with conical horns typically paired with cylindrical waveguides.
  • Another participant suggests that the decision is more related to the waveguide than the specific electromagnetic waves being transmitted.
  • It is mentioned that pyramidal horns are suited for rectangular waveguides and can be oriented for either horizontal or vertical polarization.
  • Conversely, conical horns are indicated to be used for circular polarization on cylindrical waveguides.
  • There is a reminder about the regulatory aspects of transmitting frequencies, particularly in relation to FCC licensing, which adds a layer of complexity to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the factors influencing the choice of horn antenna type, particularly regarding waveguide compatibility and polarization. No consensus is reached on a definitive reason for choosing one over the other.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not provide specific details about the frequency band or power levels involved in the project, which may limit the applicability of their points. Additionally, the discussion touches on regulatory considerations without delving into specific legal requirements.

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Hi, a buddy of mine is working on a projecting trying to find the best way to transmit electromagnetic wave frequencies, and he wants to use a horn antenna for his project.

I was looking into horn antennas, and I'm just curious, the wiki page leaves two separate equations for gain, one with a pyramidal horn antenna, and another for a conical horn antenna. But the equations look pretty much the same, minus the differences of the two shapes that the equations seem to factor in.

What is the biggest reason one would choose one type of horn antenna over another? For example, choosing a pyramidal shaped one versus a conical one?
 
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The type of waveguide usually. Conical horns with cylindrical waveguides.
 
Ah, so my first guess was right, it has more to do with the waveguide you happen to be using, rather than the kind of electromagnetic waves you are trying to transmit? Man, this stuff is really fun :)
 
Welcome to the PF. :smile:
Bishamonten said:
Hi, a buddy of mine is working on a projecting trying to find the best way to transmit electromagnetic wave frequencies
What frequency band? What power level? What country are you guys in? What is the end application?
 
I apologize berkeman, but I cannot discuss those kind of details about the project, other than the fact that we live in the United States, which is fine, since my question pertains only to why in general one would choose a pyramidal or conical horn antenna(one over the other).
 
Bishamonten said:
I apologize berkeman, but I cannot discuss those kind of details about the project, other than the fact that we live in the United States, which is fine, since my question pertains only to why in general one would choose a pyramidal or conical horn antenna(one over the other).
Fair enough, but keep in mind that the EM spectrum is regulated by the FCC, and you can't just start transmitting at any old frequency at any old power without getting the appropriate FCC license. If you are working in a shielded lab or anechoic chamber, you generally would not need an FCC license because you cannot cause harmful interference with other outside receivers.

But if you start transmitting any appreciable power in a public safety band with your experiments, I can pretty much guarantee you will hear a knock on your door pretty soon after you start transmitting. (And I may be one of the folks doing the knocking...) A word to the wise. :wink:
 
Absolutely! Thanks for the reminder.
 
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nsaspook said:
The type of waveguide usually. Conical horns with cylindrical waveguides.

and also to that Pyramidal horns will be used on a rectangular WG and can be orientated for either horizontal or vertical polarisation

where a conical will be used for circular polarisation on a cylindrical WG as nsaspook alluded to

I apologize berkeman, but I cannot discuss those kind of details about the project, other than the fact that we live in the United States

Ohhh dear ... how many times we see that cop out ! :rolleyes:

@nsaspook you better get you buddies to keep an eye on this guy! :wink::wink:Dave
 
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